Quarterback Records When Their Team Allows 21+ Points

by Chase Stuart on March 24, 2015

Back in November, Cian Fahey tweeted me a simple question: “What is Alex Smith’s record in games where his D gives up 21 or more points?”

I made a note to run the numbers in the off-season, and guess what? It’s the off-season. Smith now holds a career record of 7-38-1 (including a 1-1 mark in the postseason) when his team ^[1]Yes, that is not the same thing as his defense. allows 21 or more points. That’s really bad, as it turns out. In fact, among quarterbacks who started such a game last year, only Ryan Fitzpatrick (5-43-0) has a worse career record.

How am I defining a “good” or “bad” record? Well, that’s somewhat subjective. But you might be surprised to learn that over history, teams have won about 25% of their games when allowing 21+ points, and there hasn’t been quite as much variation as you would expect. ^[2]Well, there’s some variation, but that’s to be expected. But if the rate was dramatically difference in ’92 compared to ’89, that’s probably a small sample size issue … Continue reading So while it would probably help a little to adjust for era, it’s not as necessary as I would have originally thought. ^[3]And since I’m lazy, I’m not going to adjust for era.

Here, take a look: ^[4]I will pose a question to the crowd. I know there is a very loud crowd that hates graphs where the Y-axis does not go to zero. Here, I could do that, which would show that the variation is not that … Continue reading

The best quarterback by this metric? Tom Brady. Brady has played in 106 games (including playoffs) where the Patriots allowed at least 21 points. In those games, Brady is 60-46, for a 0.566 winning percentage. Given that we would “expect” Brady to win 25% of those 106 games — that is, 26.5 games — Brady has exceeded expectations by 33.5 wins. All the usual caveats apply: wins should not be applied to the quarterback, there are lots of reasons not to read too much into the data, etc. But sometimes, it’s just good to do a data dump, even if you only find the information useful for trivia purposes.

Rk	Quarterback	G	W	L	T	Win %	Win Ov Exp	Last Yr
1	Tom Brady	106	60	46	0	0.566	33.5	2014
2	Peyton Manning	148	65	83	0	0.439	28	2014
3	Brett Favre	149	54	95	0	0.362	16.75	2010
4	Joe Montana	64	32	32	0	0.5	16	1994
5	John Elway	102	40	62	0	0.392	14.5	1998
6	Norm Van Brocklin	68	30	35	3	0.463	14.5	1960
7	Randall Cunningham	70	31	39	0	0.443	13.5	2000
9	Aaron Rodgers	53	25	28	0	0.472	11.75	2014
8	Drew Brees	121	42	79	0	0.347	11.75	2014
10	Johnny Unitas	79	30	47	2	0.392	11.25	1973
11	Philip Rivers	77	30	47	0	0.39	10.75	2014
12	Kurt Warner	70	28	42	0	0.4	10.5	2009
13	Tony Romo	67	27	40	0	0.403	10.25	2014
14	Daryle Lamonica	35	18	15	2	0.543	10.25	1973
15	Y.A. Tittle	73	27	45	1	0.377	9.25	1964
16	Ken Stabler	66	25	40	1	0.386	9	1983
17	Jake Delhomme	48	20	28	0	0.417	8	2010
18	Rich Gannon	68	25	43	0	0.368	8	2004
19	Dan Fouts	100	33	67	0	0.33	8	1987
20	Bobby Layne	66	24	41	1	0.371	8	1962
21	Joe Theismann	49	20	29	0	0.408	7.75	1985
22	Ben Roethlisberger	67	24	43	0	0.358	7.25	2014
23	Jim Kelly	80	27	53	0	0.338	7	1996
24	Jack Kemp	46	18	27	1	0.402	7	1969
25	Matt Ryan	66	23	43	0	0.348	6.5	2014
26	Drew Bledsoe	86	28	58	0	0.326	6.5	2006
27	Otto Graham	21	11	9	1	0.548	6.25	1955
28	Milt Plum	40	15	23	2	0.4	6	1967
29	Steve McNair	73	24	49	0	0.329	5.75	2007
30	Dan Marino	117	35	82	0	0.299	5.75	1999
31	Boomer Esiason	101	31	70	0	0.307	5.75	1997
32	Roger Staubach	41	16	25	0	0.39	5.75	1979
33	Gus Frerotte	55	19	36	0	0.345	5.25	2008
34	Danny White	43	16	27	0	0.372	5.25	1987
35	Steve Young	64	21	43	0	0.328	5	1999
36	Frank Ryan	40	14	24	2	0.375	5	1968
37	Andrew Luck	29	12	17	0	0.414	4.75	2014
38	Tommy Kramer	61	20	41	0	0.328	4.75	1989
39	Don Strock	13	8	5	0	0.615	4.75	1988
40	Joe Flacco	50	17	33	0	0.34	4.5	2014
41	Neil Lomax	62	20	42	0	0.323	4.5	1988
42	Craig Morton	57	18	38	1	0.325	4.25	1982
43	John Brodie	93	26	64	3	0.296	4.25	1973
44	George Blanda	61	19	41	1	0.32	4.25	1966
45	Trent Green	72	22	50	0	0.306	4	2008
46	Brian Sipe	56	18	38	0	0.321	4	1983
47	Bill Nelsen	48	15	31	2	0.333	4	1972
48	Ed Brown	52	16	34	2	0.327	4	1964
49	Charlie Conerly	31	11	19	1	0.371	3.75	1961
50	Donovan McNabb	62	19	43	0	0.306	3.5	2011
51	Colin Kaepernick	19	8	11	0	0.421	3.25	2014
53	Nick Foles	16	7	9	0	0.438	3	2014
52	Michael Vick	62	18	43	1	0.298	3	2014
54	Jeff Hostetler	32	11	21	0	0.344	3	1997
55	Stan Humphries	44	14	30	0	0.318	3	1997
56	Marc Wilson	28	10	18	0	0.357	3	1990
57	Len Dawson	64	18	44	2	0.297	3	1975
59	Jay Cutler	73	21	52	0	0.288	2.75	2014
58	Eli Manning	97	27	70	0	0.278	2.75	2014
60	Jay Fiedler	21	8	13	0	0.381	2.75	2004
61	Kordell Stewart	38	12	26	0	0.316	2.5	2003
63	Matthew Stafford	51	15	36	0	0.294	2.25	2014
62	Matt Schaub	59	17	42	0	0.288	2.25	2013
64	Pat Ryan	11	5	6	0	0.455	2.25	1988
65	Terry Bradshaw	47	14	33	0	0.298	2.25	1982
67	Brian Hoyer	12	5	7	0	0.417	2	2014
66	Andy Dalton	30	9	20	1	0.317	2	2014
68	Mark Brunell	80	22	58	0	0.275	2	2009
69	Brian Griese	40	12	28	0	0.3	2	2008
70	Bob Gagliano	8	4	4	0	0.5	2	1992
71	Steve Grogan	68	19	49	0	0.279	2	1990
72	Rex Grossman	25	8	17	0	0.32	1.75	2011
73	Doug Flutie	29	9	20	0	0.31	1.75	2003
74	Steve Bono	13	5	8	0	0.385	1.75	1998
75	Dave Krieg	77	21	56	0	0.273	1.75	1996
76	Fran Tarkenton	117	30	85	2	0.265	1.75	1978
77	Bart Starr	57	15	40	2	0.281	1.75	1971
78	Rudy Bukich	17	5	10	2	0.353	1.75	1966
79	Sammy Baugh	13	5	8	0	0.385	1.75	1952
80	Bob Waterfield	13	5	8	0	0.385	1.75	1952
82	Teddy Bridgewater	6	3	3	0	0.5	1.5	2014
81	Russell Wilson	14	5	9	0	0.357	1.5	2014
83	Tim Tebow	10	4	6	0	0.4	1.5	2011
84	Vince Young	22	7	15	0	0.318	1.5	2011
85	Shane Matthews	10	4	6	0	0.4	1.5	2002
86	Elvis Grbac	30	9	21	0	0.3	1.5	2001
87	Eric Zeier	6	3	3	0	0.5	1.5	1998
88	Bernie Kosar	58	16	42	0	0.276	1.5	1995
89	David Woodley	20	6	13	1	0.325	1.5	1985
90	Ken Anderson	74	20	54	0	0.27	1.5	1985
91	Joe Namath	74	18	52	4	0.27	1.5	1977
92	John Stofa	6	3	3	0	0.5	1.5	1968
94	Tom Flores	38	10	26	2	0.289	1.5	1967
93	Babe Parilli	62	14	42	6	0.274	1.5	1967
95	Butch Songin	16	5	10	1	0.344	1.5	1962
96	Matt Flynn	7	3	4	0	0.429	1.25	2013
97	David Garrard	39	11	28	0	0.282	1.25	2010
98	Bobby Hebert	47	13	34	0	0.277	1.25	1996
99	Todd Blackledge	15	5	10	0	0.333	1.25	1989
100	Kevin Sweeney	3	2	1	0	0.667	1.25	1988
101	Johnny Green	11	4	7	0	0.364	1.25	1962
103	Robert Griffin	28	8	20	0	0.286	1	2014
102	Matt Cassel	40	11	29	0	0.275	1	2014
104	Chris Simms	8	3	5	0	0.375	1	2009
105	Aaron Brooks	56	15	41	0	0.268	1	2006
106	Jeff Blake	68	18	50	0	0.265	1	2003
107	Don Majkowski	28	8	20	0	0.286	1	1996
108	Gary Hogeboom	20	6	14	0	0.3	1	1989
109	George Mira	4	2	2	0	0.5	1	1971
110	Dick Wood	18	5	12	1	0.306	1	1966
111	George Ratterman	12	4	8	0	0.333	1	1956
112	Charlie Trippi	8	3	5	0	0.375	1	1952
113	Mark Sanchez	37	10	27	0	0.27	0.75	2014
114	Marlon Moore	1	1	0	0	1	0.75	2011
115	A.J. Feeley	9	3	6	0	0.333	0.75	2011
116	Jamie Martin	5	2	3	0	0.4	0.75	2005
117	Jim Miller	13	4	9	0	0.308	0.75	2002
118	John Friesz	17	5	12	0	0.294	0.75	1997
119	Jason Garrett	1	1	0	0	1	0.75	1994
120	Ed Rubbert	1	1	0	0	1	0.75	1987
121	Matt Cavanaugh	9	3	6	0	0.333	0.75	1986
122	Clint Longley	1	1	0	0	1	0.75	1975
123	Joe Gilliam	3	1	1	1	0.5	0.75	1974
124	Randy Duncan	1	1	0	0	1	0.75	1961
125	Tom Greene	1	1	0	0	1	0.75	1960
126	Bobby Thomason	17	5	12	0	0.294	0.75	1957
127	Jemeel Powell	1	1	0	0	1	0.75	1953
128	Johnny Lujack	9	3	6	0	0.333	0.75	1951
129	Travis Tidwell	1	1	0	0	1	0.75	1950
130	Bob Snyder	1	1	0	0	1	0.75	1943
131	Christian Ponder	28	7	20	1	0.268	0.5	2014
132	Matt Hasselbeck	90	23	67	0	0.256	0.5	2012
133	Chris Redman	10	3	7	0	0.3	0.5	2009
134	Bethel Johnson	2	1	1	0	0.5	0.5	2006
135	Ray Lucas	6	2	4	0	0.333	0.5	2002
136	Rob Johnson	18	5	13	0	0.278	0.5	2001
137	Mark Vlasic	2	1	1	0	0.5	0.5	1991
138	Dieter Brock	6	2	4	0	0.333	0.5	1985
139	Norris Weese	2	1	1	0	0.5	0.5	1979
140	Bob Lee	10	3	7	0	0.3	0.5	1977
141	Don Horn	6	2	4	0	0.333	0.5	1971
142	Don Meredith	46	11	33	2	0.261	0.5	1968
143	Warren Rabb	4	1	2	1	0.375	0.5	1962
144	Sam Etcheverry	6	2	4	0	0.333	0.5	1962
145	Tom Dublinski	2	1	1	0	0.5	0.5	1954
146	Carl Brumbaugh	2	1	1	0	0.5	0.5	1934
168	Kevin Kolb	11	3	8	0	0.273	0.25	2012
147	Marc Bulger	67	17	50	0	0.254	0.25	2009
149	Quinn Gray	3	1	2	0	0.333	0.25	2007
148	Todd Collins	11	3	8	0	0.273	0.25	2007
150	Craig Krenzel	3	1	2	0	0.333	0.25	2004
151	Quincy Carter	11	3	8	0	0.273	0.25	2003
152	Danny Kanell	11	3	8	0	0.273	0.25	2003
153	Scott Zolak	7	2	5	0	0.286	0.25	1998
154	Wade Wilson	35	9	26	0	0.257	0.25	1998
155	Mark Rypien	31	8	23	0	0.258	0.25	1995
156	Jeff Kemp	11	3	8	0	0.273	0.25	1991
158	Eric Hipple	27	7	20	0	0.259	0.25	1989
157	Tony Eason	31	8	23	0	0.258	0.25	1989
159	Gary Kubiak	3	1	2	0	0.333	0.25	1988
160	Oliver Luck	7	2	5	0	0.286	0.25	1986
161	Pat Haden	19	5	14	0	0.263	0.25	1981
162	Charley Johnson	67	15	48	4	0.254	0.25	1975
163	Sam Wyche	7	2	5	0	0.286	0.25	1970
164	Eddie Wilson	1	0	0	1	0.5	0.25	1963
165	Al Dorow	31	8	23	0	0.258	0.25	1962
166	M.C. Reynolds	3	1	2	0	0.333	0.25	1961
167	Adrian Burk	23	5	16	2	0.261	0.25	1956
169	Scott Tolzien	2	0	1	1	0.25	0	2013
170	Jon Kitna	76	19	57	0	0.25	0	2010
171	Tommy Maddox	22	5	16	1	0.25	0	2005
172	Tony Banks	32	8	24	0	0.25	0	2003
173	Stan Gelbaugh	4	1	3	0	0.25	0	1996
174	Cody Carlson	8	2	6	0	0.25	0	1994
175	Jim McMahon	32	8	24	0	0.25	0	1994
176	Ken O'Brien	52	13	39	0	0.25	0	1993
177	Cliff Stoudt	12	3	9	0	0.25	0	1988
178	Turk Schonert	4	1	3	0	0.25	0	1986
179	Steve Fuller	16	4	12	0	0.25	0	1986
180	Vince Ferragamo	28	7	21	0	0.25	0	1985
181	Jim Hart	86	21	64	1	0.25	0	1983
182	Bert Jones	56	14	42	0	0.25	0	1982
183	Tom Owen	4	1	3	0	0.25	0	1981
184	Steve Myer	4	1	3	0	0.25	0	1977
185	Marlin Briscoe	4	1	3	0	0.25	0	1968
186	King Hill	24	6	18	0	0.25	0	1968
187	John McCormick	12	3	9	0	0.25	0	1968
188	Richie Lucas	4	1	3	0	0.25	0	1961
191	Geno Smith	17	4	13	0	0.235	-0.25	2014
189	Johnny Manziel	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	2014
190	Ryan Mallett	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	2014
192	Thaddeus Lewis	5	1	4	0	0.2	-0.25	2013
193	Chase Daniel	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	2013
194	Jeff Tuel	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	2013
276	Brady Quinn	13	3	10	0	0.231	-0.25	2012
275	Joe Webb	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	2012
277	Greg McElroy	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	2012
195	Troy Smith	5	1	4	0	0.2	-0.25	2010
196	Brian St. Pierre	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	2010
197	Damon Huard	9	2	7	0	0.222	-0.25	2008
198	Matt Mauck	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	2005
199	Cody Pickett	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	2005
200	John Navarre	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	2004
201	Jarious Jackson	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	2003
202	Dave Ragone	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	2003
203	Matt Lytle	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	2001
204	Clint Stoerner	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	2001
205	Troy Aikman	65	16	49	0	0.246	-0.25	2000
206	Stoney Case	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1999
207	Jonathan Quinn	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1998
208	Heath Shuler	9	2	7	0	0.222	-0.25	1997
209	Bill Musgrave	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1996
210	Doug Nussmeier	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1996
211	Jay Schroeder	41	10	31	0	0.244	-0.25	1994
212	Mike Buck	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1993
213	Scott Secules	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1993
214	Cary Conklin	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1993
216	Browning Nagle	5	1	4	0	0.2	-0.25	1992
215	Will Furrer	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1992
217	Jeff Carlson	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1991
218	Erik Wilhelm	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1991
219	Babe Laufenberg	5	1	4	0	0.2	-0.25	1990
220	Anthony Dilweg	5	1	4	0	0.2	-0.25	1990
221	Frank Seurer	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1987
222	Dave Walter	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1987
223	Doug Hudson	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1987
224	Brent Pease	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1987
225	Sammy Garza	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1987
226	Jeff Van Raaphorst	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1987
227	Scott Tinsley	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1987
228	Mike Busch	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1987
229	Jim Crocicchia	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1987
230	Dan Manucci	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1987
231	Ken Karcher	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1987
232	David Norrie	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1987
233	Shawn Halloran	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1987
234	Reggie Collier	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1986
235	John Witkowski	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1984
236	David Humm	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1981
237	Mike Loyd	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1980
238	Mike Rae	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1978
239	Craig Penrose	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1978
240	Dave Mays	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1977
241	Jeb Blount	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1977
242	Roman Gabriel	65	14	47	4	0.246	-0.25	1976
243	Parnell Dickinson	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1976
244	Jesse Freitas	5	1	4	0	0.2	-0.25	1975
245	J.J. Jones	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1975
246	Don Milan	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1975
247	Will Cureton	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1975
248	Neil Graff	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1975
249	Jerry Tagge	5	1	4	0	0.2	-0.25	1974
250	Dennis Morrison	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1974
251	Gary Keithley	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1973
252	Bob Davis	7	1	5	1	0.214	-0.25	1972
253	Leo Hart	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1972
254	Alan Pastrana	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1970
255	Greg Cook	7	1	5	1	0.214	-0.25	1969
256	Jim LeClair	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1968
257	John Huarte	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1968
258	Gary Lane	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1967
259	Steve Sloan	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1967
260	Scotty Glacken	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1966
261	Tom Kennedy	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1966
262	Galen Hall	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1963
263	Bob Waters	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1963
264	Terry Baker	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1963
265	Hunter Enis	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1962
266	Ron Miller	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1962
267	Tommy O'Connell	9	1	6	2	0.222	-0.25	1961
268	Joe Francis	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1958
269	Ogden Compton	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1955
270	Ed Mioduszewski	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1953
271	Arnie Galiffa	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1953
272	Tom Landry	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1952
273	Tommy Thompson	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1950
274	Bernie Masterson	1	0	1	0	0	-0.25	1937
279	Mike Glennon	14	3	11	0	0.214	-0.5	2014
278	Austin Davis	6	1	5	0	0.167	-0.5	2014
280	Matt McGloin	6	1	5	0	0.167	-0.5	2013
282	Matt Moore	6	1	5	0	0.167	-0.5	2011
281	T.J. Yates	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	2011
283	Caleb Hanie	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	2011
284	Tyler Palko	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	2011
286	Bruce Gradkowski	14	3	11	0	0.214	-0.5	2010
288	Todd Bouman	6	1	5	0	0.167	-0.5	2010
285	Brian Brohm	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	2010
287	Max Hall	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	2010
289	Matt Leinart	10	2	8	0	0.2	-0.5	2007
290	Andrew Walter	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	2006
291	Marques Tuiasosopo	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	2005
293	Billy Volek	6	1	5	0	0.167	-0.5	2004
292	Koy Detmer	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	2004
294	Jesse Palmer	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	2003
295	Spergon Wynn	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	2001
296	Moses Moreno	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	2000
297	Neil O'Donnell	46	11	35	0	0.239	-0.5	1999
298	Tony Graziani	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1999
299	Paul Justin	6	1	5	0	0.167	-0.5	1998
300	Bobby Hoying	6	1	5	0	0.167	-0.5	1998
301	Sean Salisbury	6	1	5	0	0.167	-0.5	1996
302	Dan McGwire	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1994
303	Todd Philcox	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1993
304	Andre Ware	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1993
305	Peter Tom Willis	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1992
306	Blair Kiel	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1990
307	Todd Hons	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1987
308	Matt Stevens	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1987
309	Guido Merkens	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1987
311	Mike Moroski	6	1	5	0	0.167	-0.5	1986
310	Tom Flick	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1986
312	Ed Luther	6	1	5	0	0.167	-0.5	1984
313	Scott Brunner	14	3	11	0	0.214	-0.5	1983
314	Jerry Golsteyn	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1983
315	Steve Pisarkiewicz	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1979
316	June Jones	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1979
317	Mike Kirkland	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1978
318	Steve Spurrier	22	5	17	0	0.227	-0.5	1976
319	Larry Cipa	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1975
320	Kim McQuilken	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1975
321	Bill Demory	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1973
322	Rick Arrington	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1971
323	Bruce Lemmerman	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1969
324	Ed Rutkowski	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1968
326	Billy Wade	46	11	35	0	0.239	-0.5	1965
325	Tommy Wade	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1965
327	Don Breaux	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1963
328	Bob Clatterbuck	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1960
329	Jim Root	8	1	6	1	0.188	-0.5	1956
330	Gary Kerkorian	6	1	5	0	0.167	-0.5	1954
331	Ray Nagel	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1953
332	Chuck Ortmann	2	0	2	0	0	-0.5	1952
334	Kirk Cousins	7	1	6	0	0.143	-0.75	2014
333	Drew Stanton	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	2014
335	Luke McCown	7	1	6	0	0.143	-0.75	2011
336	Trent Edwards	15	3	12	0	0.2	-0.75	2010
337	Keith Null	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	2009
338	Sage Rosenfels	7	1	6	0	0.143	-0.75	2008
339	J.T. O'Sullivan	7	1	6	0	0.143	-0.75	2008
340	Trent Dilfer	47	11	36	0	0.234	-0.75	2007
341	Brooks Bollinger	7	1	6	0	0.143	-0.75	2007
342	Anthony Wright	7	1	6	0	0.143	-0.75	2005
343	Shaun King	7	1	6	0	0.143	-0.75	2004
344	Kurt Kittner	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	2003
346	Kent Graham	15	3	12	0	0.2	-0.75	2000
345	Cade McNown	7	1	6	0	0.143	-0.75	2000
347	Gale Gilbert	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1995
348	John Fourcade	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1990
349	Tom Ramsey	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1989
350	Kyle Mackey	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1989
351	Scott Bull	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1978
352	Pat Sullivan	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1975
353	Gary Cuozzo	15	3	12	0	0.2	-0.75	1972
354	Tim Van Galder	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1972
355	Dan Darragh	7	1	6	0	0.143	-0.75	1970
356	Kay Stephenson	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1968
357	Larry Rakestraw	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1968
358	Ron Vander Kelen	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1967
359	Max Choboian	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1966
360	George Izo	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1966
361	Dennis Claridge	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1966
362	Ron Smith	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1966
363	Lee Grosscup	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1962
364	George Taliaferro	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1953
365	John Rauch	3	0	3	0	0	-0.75	1951
367	Blake Bortles	8	1	7	0	0.125	-1	2014
366	Ryan Lindley	4	0	4	0	0	-1	2014
368	Josh Johnson	4	0	4	0	0	-1	2011
369	John Beck	4	0	4	0	0	-1	2011
370	Charlie Frye	12	2	10	0	0.167	-1	2009
371	Brad Johnson	48	11	37	0	0.229	-1	2008
372	Charlie Batch	28	6	22	0	0.214	-1	2007
373	Tim Hasselbeck	4	0	4	0	0	-1	2003
374	Alex Van Pelt	8	1	7	0	0.125	-1	2001
375	Brock Huard	4	0	4	0	0	-1	2000
377	Warren Moon	104	25	79	0	0.24	-1	1998
376	Donald Hollas	4	0	4	0	0	-1	1998
378	T.J. Rubley	4	0	4	0	0	-1	1993
379	Doug Williams	36	8	28	0	0.222	-1	1988
380	David Archer	12	2	10	0	0.167	-1	1987
381	Joe Dufek	4	0	4	0	0	-1	1984
382	Mike Phipps	28	6	22	0	0.214	-1	1980
383	Bill Troup	8	1	7	0	0.125	-1	1978
384	Gary Marangi	4	0	4	0	0	-1	1976
386	Sonny Jurgensen	80	17	59	4	0.238	-1	1974
385	Wayne Clark	4	0	4	0	0	-1	1974
387	Jim Del Gaizo	4	0	4	0	0	-1	1974
388	Jerry Rhome	6	0	5	1	0.083	-1	1970
389	Dewey Warren	4	0	4	0	0	-1	1968
390	Terry Nofsinger	4	0	4	0	0	-1	1967
391	George Herring	4	0	4	0	0	-1	1961
392	Ted Marchibroda	4	0	4	0	0	-1	1956
393	Steve Romanik	8	1	7	0	0.125	-1	1953
395	Bob Celeri	10	1	8	1	0.15	-1	1952
394	Bob Williams	4	0	4	0	0	-1	1952
397	EJ Manuel	9	1	8	0	0.111	-1.25	2014
396	Charlie Whitehurst	5	0	5	0	0	-1.25	2014
425	John Skelton	9	1	8	0	0.111	-1.25	2012
398	Tarvaris Jackson	17	3	14	0	0.176	-1.25	2011
399	Derek Anderson	25	5	20	0	0.2	-1.25	2010
400	Byron Leftwich	25	5	20	0	0.2	-1.25	2009
401	J.P. Losman	17	3	14	0	0.176	-1.25	2008
402	Cleo Lemon	5	0	5	0	0	-1.25	2007
403	Tim Rattay	13	2	11	0	0.154	-1.25	2006
404	Steve Beuerlein	49	11	38	0	0.224	-1.25	2003
405	Danny Wuerffel	5	0	5	0	0	-1.25	2002
406	Ty Detmer	17	3	14	0	0.176	-1.25	2001
407	Steve Stenstrom	5	0	5	0	0	-1.25	1999
408	Craig Whelihan	9	1	8	0	0.111	-1.25	1998
409	Craig Erickson	21	4	17	0	0.19	-1.25	1996
410	Todd Marinovich	5	0	5	0	0	-1.25	1992
411	Tom Tupa	5	0	5	0	0	-1.25	1991
412	Jeff Rutledge	5	0	5	0	0	-1.25	1990
413	Bruce Mathison	5	0	5	0	0	-1.25	1985
414	Art Schlichter	5	0	5	0	0	-1.25	1985
415	Bobby Scott	9	1	8	0	0.111	-1.25	1977
416	Scott Hunter	13	2	11	0	0.154	-1.25	1976
418	Zeke Bratkowski	25	5	20	0	0.2	-1.25	1971
417	Ed Hargett	5	0	5	0	0	-1.25	1971
419	Buddy Humphrey	5	0	5	0	0	-1.25	1966
420	George Wilson	5	0	5	0	0	-1.25	1966
421	Tobin Rote	75	17	57	1	0.233	-1.25	1964
422	Ralph Guglielmi	17	2	13	2	0.176	-1.25	1963
423	Fred Enke	5	0	5	0	0	-1.25	1954
424	Frankie Albert	17	3	14	0	0.176	-1.25	1952
426	Zach Mettenberger	6	0	6	0	0	-1.5	2014
428	Kellen Clemens	10	1	9	0	0.1	-1.5	2013
429	Seneca Wallace	10	1	9	0	0.1	-1.5	2013
427	Case Keenum	6	0	6	0	0	-1.5	2013
430	Brodie Croyle	6	0	6	0	0	-1.5	2010
431	Jeff Garcia	66	15	51	0	0.227	-1.5	2008
432	Chad Hutchinson	6	0	6	0	0	-1.5	2004
433	Frank Reich	14	2	12	0	0.143	-1.5	1998
434	Bubby Brister	34	7	27	0	0.206	-1.5	1995
435	Kelly Stouffer	6	0	6	0	0	-1.5	1992
436	Joe Ferguson	82	19	63	0	0.232	-1.5	1989
437	John Reaves	10	1	9	0	0.1	-1.5	1987
438	Jim Plunkett	70	16	54	0	0.229	-1.5	1986
439	Gifford Nielsen	10	1	9	0	0.1	-1.5	1983
440	Jeff Komlo	10	1	9	0	0.1	-1.5	1981
441	Matt Robinson	10	1	9	0	0.1	-1.5	1980
442	Earl Morrall	40	8	31	1	0.213	-1.5	1974
443	Rick Norton	10	1	9	0	0.1	-1.5	1969
444	Tom Sherman	6	0	6	0	0	-1.5	1968
445	Gary Wood	6	0	6	0	0	-1.5	1966
446	Frank Tripucka	32	6	25	1	0.203	-1.5	1963
447	Don Heinrich	12	1	10	1	0.125	-1.5	1962
450	Kyle Orton	39	8	31	0	0.205	-1.75	2014
449	Jake Locker	15	2	13	0	0.133	-1.75	2014
448	Derek Carr	11	1	10	0	0.091	-1.75	2014
451	Terrelle Pryor	7	0	7	0	0	-1.75	2013
452	Curtis Painter	7	0	7	0	0	-1.75	2011
453	Jimmy Clausen	7	0	7	0	0	-1.75	2010
454	Ken Dorsey	11	1	10	0	0.091	-1.75	2008
455	Mike McMahon	11	1	10	0	0.091	-1.75	2005
456	Chris Chandler	83	19	64	0	0.229	-1.75	2004
457	Patrick Ramsey	11	1	10	0	0.091	-1.75	2004
458	Akili Smith	11	1	10	0	0.091	-1.75	2002
459	Glenn Foley	7	0	7	0	0	-1.75	1998
460	Tom Hodson	7	0	7	0	0	-1.75	1992
461	Rusty Hilger	7	0	7	0	0	-1.75	1988
462	Jim Zorn	67	15	52	0	0.224	-1.75	1985
463	Richard Todd	57	12	44	1	0.219	-1.75	1984
464	Jack Thompson	11	1	10	0	0.091	-1.75	1984
465	David Whitehurst	15	2	13	0	0.133	-1.75	1981
466	Steve Ramsey	11	1	10	0	0.091	-1.75	1976
467	Al Woodall	7	0	7	0	0	-1.75	1973
468	Jack Concannon	15	2	13	0	0.133	-1.75	1970
469	Karl Sweetan	11	1	10	0	0.091	-1.75	1968
470	George Shaw	13	1	11	1	0.115	-1.75	1961
472	Ryan Tannehill	24	4	20	0	0.167	-2	2014
471	Shaun Hill	16	2	14	0	0.125	-2	2014
473	Dan Orlovsky	8	0	8	0	0	-2	2011
474	Tyler Thigpen	8	0	8	0	0	-2	2008
476	Rodney Peete	40	8	32	0	0.2	-2	2003
475	Doug Johnson	8	0	8	0	0	-2	2003
477	Dave Brown	28	5	23	0	0.179	-2	2000
478	Steve DeBerg	88	20	68	0	0.227	-2	1998
479	Hugh Millen	12	1	11	0	0.083	-2	1994
480	Steve Pelluer	16	2	14	0	0.125	-2	1988
481	Mark Herrmann	8	0	8	0	0	-2	1987
482	Tony Adams	8	0	8	0	0	-2	1987
483	Lynn Dickey	60	13	47	0	0.217	-2	1985
484	Paul McDonald	8	0	8	0	0	-2	1984
485	Joe Reed	8	0	8	0	0	-2	1979
486	James Harris	12	1	11	0	0.083	-2	1978
487	Marty Domres	16	2	14	0	0.125	-2	1977
488	Mike Boryla	8	0	8	0	0	-2	1976
489	Virgil Carter	12	1	11	0	0.083	-2	1975
490	Pete Liske	12	1	11	0	0.083	-2	1972
491	Don Trull	14	1	12	1	0.107	-2	1969
492	Jacky Lee	14	1	12	1	0.107	-2	1969
493	Jack Scarbath	8	0	8	0	0	-2	1954
494	Daunte Culpepper	65	14	51	0	0.215	-2.25	2009
495	Billy Joe Hobert	9	0	9	0	0	-2.25	1999
496	Jim Everett	89	20	69	0	0.225	-2.25	1996
497	Scott Campbell	9	0	9	0	0	-2.25	1990
498	Steve Dils	13	1	12	0	0.077	-2.25	1988
500	Bob Griese	53	11	42	0	0.208	-2.25	1980
499	Greg Landry	43	8	34	1	0.198	-2.25	1980
501	Billy Kilmer	53	11	42	0	0.208	-2.25	1978
502	Terry Hanratty	9	0	9	0	0	-2.25	1976
503	Pete Beathard	17	2	15	0	0.118	-2.25	1972
504	Joe Kapp	17	2	15	0	0.118	-2.25	1970
505	Mike Taliaferro	17	2	15	0	0.118	-2.25	1970
506	John Roach	9	0	9	0	0	-2.25	1964
508	Jim Finks	29	5	24	0	0.172	-2.25	1955
507	Harry Gilmer	9	0	9	0	0	-2.25	1955
510	Josh McCown	26	4	22	0	0.154	-2.5	2014
509	Brandon Weeden	14	1	13	0	0.071	-2.5	2014
511	Chad Pennington	34	6	28	0	0.176	-2.5	2009
512	Doug Pederson	10	0	10	0	0	-2.5	2000
513	Chuck Long	10	0	10	0	0	-2.5	1988
514	Steve Bartkowski	66	14	52	0	0.212	-2.5	1986
515	Bob Avellini	22	3	19	0	0.136	-2.5	1984
516	Jim Ninowski	10	0	10	0	0	-2.5	1968
517	Cotton Davidson	32	5	26	1	0.172	-2.5	1966
518	Jim Hardy	10	0	10	0	0	-2.5	1952
519	Chad Henne	35	6	29	0	0.171	-2.75	2014
520	Josh Freeman	35	6	29	0	0.171	-2.75	2013
521	Kelly Holcomb	15	1	14	0	0.067	-2.75	2007
522	Vince Evans	19	2	17	0	0.105	-2.75	1995
523	Timm Rosenbach	15	1	14	0	0.067	-2.75	1992
524	Dan Pastorini	67	14	53	0	0.209	-2.75	1981
525	John Hadl	81	16	62	3	0.216	-2.75	1977
526	Kent Nix	11	0	11	0	0	-2.75	1972
527	Steve Tensi	23	3	20	0	0.13	-2.75	1970
528	Sam Bradford	26	3	22	1	0.135	-3	2013
529	Kyle Boller	20	2	18	0	0.1	-3	2011
530	JaMarcus Russell	16	1	15	0	0.063	-3	2009
531	Ryan Leaf	12	0	12	0	0	-3	2001
533	Jim Harbaugh	56	11	45	0	0.196	-3	2000
532	Scott Mitchell	40	7	33	0	0.175	-3	2000
534	David Klingler	12	0	12	0	0	-3	1994
535	Mike Pagel	32	5	27	0	0.156	-3	1990
536	Dave Wilson	16	1	15	0	0.063	-3	1986
537	Bill Munson	26	3	22	1	0.135	-3	1975
538	Dick Shiner	18	1	16	1	0.083	-3	1973
539	Dennis Shaw	22	2	19	1	0.114	-3	1972
540	Bob Berry	20	2	18	0	0.1	-3	1972
541	Colt McCoy	13	0	13	0	0	-3.25	2014
542	Erik Kramer	37	6	31	0	0.162	-3.25	1999
543	Gary Danielson	31	4	26	1	0.145	-3.25	1988
544	Gary Huff	13	0	13	0	0	-3.25	1977
545	Mickey Slaughter	15	0	14	1	0.033	-3.25	1966
546	Cam Newton	32	4	27	1	0.141	-3.5	2014
547	Chris Weinke	14	0	14	0	0	-3.5	2006
548	Steve Walsh	14	0	14	0	0	-3.5	1996
549	Bill Kenney	34	5	29	0	0.147	-3.5	1988
550	Alex Smith	46	7	38	1	0.163	-4	2014
551	Jake Plummer	68	13	55	0	0.191	-4	2006
552	Rick Mirer	36	5	31	0	0.139	-4	2003
553	Mark Malone	24	2	22	0	0.083	-4	1988
554	Joe Pisarcik	16	0	16	0	0	-4	1984
555	Tim Couch	29	3	26	0	0.103	-4.25	2003
556	Randy Wright	21	1	20	0	0.048	-4.25	1988
557	Blaine Gabbert	18	0	18	0	0	-4.5	2013
559	Chris Miller	54	9	45	0	0.167	-4.5	1999
558	Billy Joe Tolliver	26	2	24	0	0.077	-4.5	1999
560	Bobby Douglass	26	2	24	0	0.077	-4.5	1976
561	Jason Campbell	36	4	32	0	0.111	-5	2013
562	Jack Trudeau	24	1	23	0	0.042	-5	1994
563	Phil Simms	60	10	50	0	0.167	-5	1993
564	Mike Livingston	36	4	32	0	0.111	-5	1979
565	Mike Tomczak	29	2	27	0	0.069	-5.25	1999
566	Lamar McHan	43	4	37	2	0.116	-5.75	1963
567	Carson Palmer	80	14	66	0	0.175	-6	2013
568	Ron Jaworski	50	6	43	1	0.13	-6	1989
569	Kerry Collins	90	16	74	0	0.178	-6.5	2011
570	Randy Johnson	34	2	32	0	0.059	-6.5	1975
571	Joey Harrington	39	3	36	0	0.077	-6.75	2007
572	Ryan Fitzpatrick	48	5	43	0	0.104	-7	2014
573	Eddie LeBaron	54	5	46	3	0.12	-7	1963
574	Vinny Testaverde	109	20	89	0	0.183	-7.25	2007
575	Jeff George	77	12	65	0	0.156	-7.25	2001
576	Norm Snead	99	14	80	5	0.167	-8.25	1976
577	David Carr	46	3	43	0	0.065	-8.5	2007
578	Archie Manning	81	5	75	1	0.068	-14.75	1984

As for Smith? There are 121 quarterbacks who started at least 40 games where their teams allowed 21+ points. Smith has the 8th worst winning percentage among that group, behind David Carr (0.065), Archie Manning (0.068), Fitzpatrick (0.104), Lamar McHan (0.116), Eddie LeBaron (0.120), Ron Jaworski (0.130), and Jeff George (0.156).

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↑1	Yes, that is not the same thing as his defense.
↑2	Well, there’s some variation, but that’s to be expected. But if the rate was dramatically difference in ’92 compared to ’89, that’s probably a small sample size issue and not an era issue. Rates are around 25% now, which they were in the ’80s and ’60s and even in ’74.
↑3	And since I’m lazy, I’m not going to adjust for era.
↑4	I will pose a question to the crowd. I know there is a very loud crowd that hates graphs where the Y-axis does not go to zero. Here, I could do that, which would show that the variation is not that great. But I think people know how to read axes, so they’d benefit from something like this over a lot of blank white space. What do you think?

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