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Trivia: Steve Young, Aaron Rodgers, or Tie?

Below are 31 questions, where the answer to each question is Steve Young, Aaron Rodgers, or tie. All stats are through 2018 and regular season only, unless expressly noted otherwise.

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1. Which quarterback won more games?

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2. Which quarterback has a higher career winning percentage?

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3. Which quarterback won the most Super Bowls as a starter?

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4. Which quarterback won the most AP MVP awards?

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5. Which quarterback earned the most 1st-team All-Pro selections from the Associated Press?

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6. Which quarterback made the most Pro Bowls?

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7. Which quarterback led the league in completion percentage most often?

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8. Which quarterback led the league in TD/INT ratio most often?

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9. Which quarterback led the league in passer rating most often?

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10. Which quarterback led the league in ANY/A most often?

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11. Which quarterback led the league in Passing Touchdowns most often?

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12. Which quarterback had fewer (i.e., a better amount of) fumbles?

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13. Which quarterback had more rushing TDs?

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14. Which quarterback had more rushing yards?

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15. Which quarterback had more rushing yards per carry?

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The next set of questions cover the statistics produced by each quarterback relative to the other passers of his era. For Young, this looks at the 32 quarterbacks with the most pass attempts from 1985 to 1999; for Rodgers, the sample size is the 32 quarterbacks with the most pass attempts from 2005 to 2018.

16. Which quarterback ranks higher in ANY/A?

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17. Which quarterback ranks higher in passer rating?

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18. Which quarterback ranks higher in TD percentage?

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19. Which quarterback ranks better (i.e., lower) in INT percentage?

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20. Which quarterback ranks higher in Yards/Attempt?

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21. Which quarterback ranks higher in 4th Quarter Comebacks?

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22. Which quarterback ranks higher in Game Winning Drives?

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23. Which quarterback had a better (i.e., lower) rank in sack rate?

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24. Which quarterback ranked better TD/INT ratio?

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25. Which quarterback ranked better in Yards/Completion?

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Finally, let’s get to some playoff numbers. Which, like everything else here, isn’t easy.

26. Which quarterback won more playoff games?

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27. Which quarterback had a better playoff winning percentage?

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The next set of questions look at the quarterbacks with the 15 most pass attempts from ’87 to ’98 (for Young) and ’07 to ’16 (for Rodgers) in playoff games:

28. Which quarterback ranks better in Yards/Attempt?

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29. Which quarterback ranks better in Passer Rating?

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30. Which quarterback ranks better in rushing yards in the playoffs?

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31. Which quarterback ranks better in playoff ANY/A?

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Tom Brady has been known to wear Suggs

Tom Brady has been known to wear Suggs

Disclaimer: Quarterbacks don’t have records, teams do. A quarterback’s “record” is simply shorthand for saying “the record of a quarterback’s teams in all playoff games started by that quarterback.” Please forgive me for using that shorthand for the remainder of this post.

Eight years ago, Doug Drinen wrote a fun post in advance of the 2006 AFC Championship Game. At the time, Peyton Manning had gone 0-2 in playoff games against Tom Brady, so Doug looked at quarterbacks who had gone winless against another particular quarterback in the postseason.

Manning wound up beating Brady in that game, and evened his record against Brady in the 2013 playoffs. No pair of quarterbacks have ever met as starters five times in the playoffs, so Brady/Manning are tied for the most playoff meetings. Joining them on Saturday will be Brady and Joe Flacco. This weekend’s game will be the fourth time since 2009 that the Ravens have traveled to Foxboro in the postseason, and Brady and Flacco have been under center for each game. [continue reading…]

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No, Peyton, you're the man

No, Peyton, you're the man.

In 1984, Dan Marino set an NFL record with 48 touchdown passes, but his Dolphins lost in the Super Bowl. Twenty years later, Peyton Manning broke Marino’s record, but he lost to the eventual Super Bowl champion Patriots in the playoffs. In 2007, Tom Brady broke Manning’s touchdowns record, but he lost in the Super Bowl, too.

When the greatest quarterback seasons of all time are discussed, these three years dominate the discussion. And with good reason. But if you include the playoffs — and frankly, there’s no reason not to include the playoffs — which quarterback produced the greatest season of all time? I’m going to stipulate that the greatest quarterback season ever has to end in a Lombardi Trophy, because otherwise, I think we’ll end up back in the world of Marino ’84/Brady ’07/Manning ’04. Of course, now another Manning season has entered the mix: and with a Super Bowl win, Manning’s 2013 should and would be remembered as the greatest quarterback season of all time.

So, the question becomes, which season would he knock off the top rung? I think there are six seasons that stand out from the rest, based on regular and postseason performance.

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Longest streaks as a favorite

The GSOT

The GSOT.

On its own, this week five game against San Francisco doesn’t stand out as anything special. The 0-4 Rams were traveling to San Francisco with Jamie Martin at quarterback, who led the team to just 10 points the previous week in Dallas after Kurt Warner broke his pinky finger. The 49ers were coming off of a bye week, and would send Jeff Garcia and Terrell Owens to the Pro Bowl, while Garrison Hearst and Kevan Barlow led a top-six ground game. San Francisco should have, and did, win convincingly.

The reason that’s a notable game is precisely because the 49ers were six-point favorites. That marked the first time since week 2, 1999 — when the Rams had not yet been recognized as the Greatest Show on Turf — that St. Louis was not favored to win a game. For the final 14 regular season games and the three playoff games in 1999, all seventeen games in 2000, all 19 games in 2001, and the first four games in 2002 — a stretch of 57 straight games — the Rams took the field as favorites. That’s the longest streak since 1978, and perhaps ever. And I’m not sure if this makes that fact more of less impressive, but all things considered, the Rams’ record wasn’t that great during the stretch. Part of the reason for the streak was that St. Louis generally had a weak schedule those years, but continually being favored to win games without a great record is an interesting (and rare) sign of respect.

TeamStreakYear StartYear EndRecordStreak Ender
STL571999200240-17-0 vs. SFO
SFO391984198630-9-0 vs. MIA
DAL361981198326-10-0 vs. SFO
PIT351978198026-9-0 vs. HOU
SFO341989199029-5-0 vs. NYG
CHI331985198728-5-0 vs. DEN
SFO291991199324-5-0 vs. DAL
SFO281994199521-7-0 vs. DAL
WAS281991199223-5-0 vs. KAN
DAL271993199423-4-0 vs. SFO
DAL231995199616-7-0 vs. PHI
GNB211997199816-5-0 vs. MIN
DEN211998199917-4-0 vs. TAM
NWE202007200819-1-0 vs. NYJ

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In 2006, I took a stab at ranking every quarterback in NFL history. Two years later, I acquired more data and made enough improvements to merit publishing an updated and more accurate list of the best quarterbacks the league has ever seen. In 2009, I tweaked the formula again, and published a set of career rankings, along with a set of strength of schedule, era and weather adjustments, and finally career rankings which include those adjustments and playoff performances.

If nothing else, that was three years ago, so the series was due for an update. I’ve also acquired more data, enabling me to tweak the formula to better reflect player performance. But let’s start today with an explanation of the methodology I’m using. To rank a group of players, you need to decide which metric you’re ordering the list by. I’ll get to all of the criteria I’m not using in a little bit, but the formula does use each of the following: pass attempts, passing touchdowns, passing yards, interceptions, sacks, sack yards lost, fumbles, fumbles recovered, rush attempts, rushing yards and rushing touchdowns. Most importantly, the formula is adjusted for era and league.

Two of the best quarterbacks ever.

So where do we begin? We start with plain old yards per attempt. I then incorporate sack data by removing sack yards from the numerator and adding sacks to the denominator [1]I have individual sack data for every quarterback since 1969. For seasons before then, I have team sack data going back to 1949. For seasons before 1950, I ignored sacks; for seasons between 1950 … Continue reading. To include touchdowns and pass attempts, I gave a quarterback 20 yards for each passing touchdown and subtracted 45 yards for each interception. This calculation — (Pass Yards + 20 * PTD – 45 * INT – Sack Yards Lost) / (Sacks + Pass Attempts) forms the basis for Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt, one of the key metrics I use to evaluate quarterbacks.

For purposes of this study, I did some further tweaking. I’m including rushing touchdowns, because our goal is to measure quarterbacks as players. There’s no reason to separate rushing and passing touchdowns from a value standpoint, so all passing and rushing touchdowns are worth 20 yards and are calculated in the numerator of Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt. To be consistent, I also include rushing touchdowns in the denominator of the equation. This won’t change anything for most quarterbacks, but feels right to me. A touchdown is a touchdown.
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1 I have individual sack data for every quarterback since 1969. For seasons before then, I have team sack data going back to 1949. For seasons before 1950, I ignored sacks; for seasons between 1950 and 1969, I gave each quarterback an approximate number of sacks, giving him the pro-rated portion of sacks allowed by the percentage of pass attempts he threw for the team. While imperfect, I thought this “fix” to be better than to ignore the data completely, especially for years where one quarterback was responsible for the vast majority of his team’s pass attempts.
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Quarterback wins over Pythagoras

No, this article isn’t an article about quarterbacks squaring off against ancient Greek mathematicians. Today, we’re going to look at quarterback win-loss records and see how they compare to their Pythagorean win-loss records.

Over 30 years ago, Bill James wrote that, on average, baseball teams’ true strengths could be measured more accurately by looking at runs scored and runs allowed than by looking at wins and losses. Since then, sports statisticians have applied the same thinking to all sports. The formula to calculate a team’s Pythagorean winning percentage is always some variation of:

(Points Scored^2) / (Points Scored ^2 + Points Allowed^2)

With the exponent changing from 2 to whatever number best fits the data for the particular sport. In football, that number is 2.53. We can look, for example, at the Pythagorean records for each team in the league last season, and line it up against their actual record:

YearTmRecordWin%PFPAPyth WinsDiff
2011KAN7-90.4382123383.763.24
2011GNB15-10.93856035912.082.92
2011DEN8-80.5003093905.712.29
2011OAK8-80.5003594336.141.86
2011NWE13-30.81351334211.781.22
2011NYG9-70.5633944007.851.15
2011ARI8-80.5003123486.91.1
2011TAM4-120.2502874943.230.77
2011TEN9-70.5633253178.250.75
2011NOR13-30.81354733912.330.67
2011BAL12-40.75037826611.340.66
2011ATL10-60.6254023509.390.61
2011SFO13-30.81338022912.520.48
2011CIN9-70.5633443238.640.36
2011PIT12-40.75032522711.40.6
2011MIA6-100.3753293138.5-2.5
2011MIN3-130.1883404495.3-2.3
2011PHI8-80.5003963289.87-1.87
2011CAR6-100.3754064297.44-1.44
2011SEA7-90.4383213158.19-1.19
2011IND2-140.1252434303.05-1.05
2011HOU10-60.62538127811.03-1.03
2011SDG8-80.5004063778.75-0.75
2011CLE4-120.2502183074.74-0.74
2011WAS5-110.3132883675.62-0.62
2011DAL8-80.5003693478.62-0.62
2011BUF6-100.3753724346.46-0.46
2011NYJ8-80.5003773638.38-0.38
2011CHI8-80.5003533418.35-0.35
2011STL2-140.1251934072.1-0.1
2011JAX5-110.3132433295.08-0.08
2011DET10-60.62547438710.01-0.01

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