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Yesterday, we looked at the best (and worst) regular season performances, as measured by Total Adjusted Yards per Play and its many derivatives. Today, it’s time to look into total career values. Keep in mind, these figures don’t include the postseason, where many legends cemented or defined their legacies. We will get to that later, I promise.

Because I apparently hate driving traffic to the site, I will not title this anything to do with the greatest or best quarterback. Instead, I want to be honest about the fact that the results below are simply one measurement of career performance and are not meant to be definitive. I do believe it is the best approach I have seen when it comes to using numbers to compare quarterbacks across eras, but it isn’t perfect. When you see “Johnny Unitas,” what you are really seeing is Unitas, throwing to Raymond Berry, John Mackey, Lenny Moore, Jim Mutscheller, and Jimmy Orr, handing off to Alan Ameche, and standing behind Jim Parker and Bob Vogel, while glancing over at Weeb Ewbank and Don Shula standing on the sidelines. When you see “John Elway,” what you are really seeing is Elway throwing to a ragtag group of receivers, playing behind a ho hum offensive line, and under the tutelage of an unimaginative head coach during his prime, before getting basically the opposite of that late in his career. The average reader at Football Perspective has a good grip on both history and stat and should have little trouble contextualizing the numbers presented today.

Methodology

Rather than rehash the same information from yesterday, I will point you to the methodology section from the single season post for most of the basics. There are a few new concepts to discuss:

  1. To find career value per play, I sum every season of a player’s VAL and divide by his total plays.
  2. To find a player’s career value only in positive seasons, I simply count all seasons with negative VAL as zero before summing.
  3. I am revisiting a concept I introduced in 2016 in which I look at career value in terms of standard deviations above or below average. Whereas VAL is defined as a players TAY/P relative to average multiplied by his number of plays, what I am calling Z Value is a player’s TAY/P z-score multiplies by his number of plays. This one may merit an example:

In 2007, the three-year rolling league average TAY/P was 4.99, and the weighted standard deviation was 1.44. Tom Brady posted a TAY/P of 8.34, which was 3.35 above average. Thus, his z-score that season was 2.33 (3.35/1.44). Brady was involved in 636 action plays, so his Z Value is the product of that and his z-score, or 1482. We can do this for every season of his career to find his cumulative Z Value. In Brady’s case, that total is 10427. [1]I didn’t include it in the chart, but you can divide his career Z Value by his career plays, you will see his career z-score, which goes into his TAY/P+ metric. If you take the z-score and … Continue reading

I whittled the list down to every player who reach 1500 career action plays, be they actual or inflation-adjusted. That leaves us with 242 players and a much more manageable list than the single season version. [2]Johnny Lujack is the odd man out here. He had 948 action plays, and his inflation adjustment bumps him to 1358—still shy of the 1500 play threshold. In his brief career, he had a VAL/P of 2.36, a … Continue reading

The Table

The table below contains every qualifying quarterback since 1932. It is initially sorted by inflation-adjusted VAL, but you can sort and search as is your wont. Read the table thus: Peyton Manning played 266 games and was involved in 10114 action plays. Adjusted for inflation, that’s roughly 9684 plays. He produced 68574 Total Adjusted Yards, giving him 6.78 TAY/P. Over the course of his career, his TAY/P was 1.71 better than average, and his TAY/P index score is 117.8. His Z-Value is 12030, his unadjusted VAL is 17283, and his inflation-adjusted VAL is 16608. When only including positive seasons of VAL, his career total comes to 17798, and when considering only positive seasons of inflation-adjusted VAL, his total is 17089.

PlayerGPlyAdjPlyTAYTAY/PVAL/PTAYP+ZVALVALAdjVALPVPAV
Peyton Manning266101149684685746.781.71117.81203017283166081779817089
Drew Brees2871146910907762896.651.30114.01073214918141651543214663
Tom Brady3011175511169774006.581.24113.31042714565138671475614048
Dan Marino24289298719540086.051.41114.3849612569123141267712418
Otto Graham12630314276202896.692.57116.83402779210914779210914
Aaron Rodgers19777077268540767.021.46115.9815211240106041147610835
Joe Montana19261616376384126.231.66116.7687210208104931020810493
Fran Tarkenton24676259188388805.101.10108.74438840010222896210882
Steve Young16952295077342936.561.89119.66843990196611080910540
Johnny Unitas21158667598312265.321.10108.332546464863475069924
Sid Luckman12819483266106925.492.47115.820474812845350988869
Ken Anderson19252706163280235.321.31111.339666885834274118912
Norm Van Brocklin14029974400173075.771.91113.727325728830457288304
Sammy Baugh16533195455154004.641.52109.420785029826955839123
Dan Fouts18161476721330125.371.15111.446717053790375118442
Philip Rivers24489818491575346.410.91109.657468171776688658425
Sonny Jurgensen21846835712258215.511.31110.532866145749864367904
Roger Staubach13136814346199905.431.67114.335116139717266167760
Ben Roethlisberger23388488394549536.210.78108.650576942659374567087
Brett Favre3021129610905613655.430.60106.447976776651289508624
Matt Ryan20583117822525736.330.74108.345926162580064076029
Len Dawson21142515076226825.341.18109.326385004576056566624
Tony Romo15048214593313016.491.18112.339685670542358155559
Y.A. Tittle20448216672243755.060.84106.320154029528758727739
Cecil Isbell541240206265475.282.25115.412732787464627874646
John Brodie20148686040243004.990.81106.922413942463549145989
Kurt Warner12445034347268715.971.05110.932614731453754965274
Daryle Lamonica13728233375148505.261.33109.818493762445245515408
John Elway23485408345441625.170.53105.631654554444956195498
Joe Namath14039834767192534.830.89106.417093565421346965598
Jeff Garcia12543254169252355.830.99110.831034287411446434461
Russell Wilson14455325168359466.500.79109.233814357406943574069
Bert Jones10230303524154145.091.13109.318803427397941244894
Jim Kelly16054065304291945.400.74107.426644004396842974247
Donovan McNabb16764006174357295.580.64106.527714067395950754923
Patrick Mahomes4619261800153947.992.19124.631564216394042333956
Trent Green12042424098244985.780.95110.028404037390647434589
Bart Starr19636314622185965.120.86106.716293135372141005023
John Hadl22452366274242154.620.60104.716343153369251546115
Jim Hart20155176414243274.410.47103.412352599341039994878
Bob Griese16140254755180964.500.70105.815602818340132663928
Steve McNair16154675267297175.440.64106.824863503336040993941
Roman Gabriel18352046318233274.480.49104.114092558312738144635
Bobby Layne17543116222185204.300.47103.59992041309632304724
Boomer Esiason18759705854308055.160.52105.120253084301751295010
Warren Moon20878247650393965.040.39103.920373024300046924613
Dutch Clark64856164938494.501.83113.87881564294816763160
Rich Gannon15750294866268685.340.61106.822663074292940973937
Carson Palmer18269486624399325.750.43104.922523005287739313756
Troy Aikman16553015144278955.260.55105.820332936283543264196
Bob Waterfield911692258071554.231.04107.07891765282723033610
Mark Brunell19155435326293185.290.51105.520232836271534953356
Jim Everett15854375326282135.190.50105.218842714266240063916
Terry Bradshaw16846525494208824.490.52105.015422436262137214206
Charlie Conerly16131034523133504.300.53103.47091637252131294603
Steve Grogan14942854665200314.670.51104.813592171251132303554
Kirk Cousins10941053836262626.400.65107.620932669249030532849
Joe Theismann16742974657205444.780.53105.214972277246733193560
Billy Kilmer15834464212152984.440.55104.410021894236127453391
Matt Schaub15237213554221345.950.65106.014852401231834973353
Dak Prescott6926982524179866.670.90110.418692441227824412278
Cliff Battles49768161732004.171.42111.45831092226610922266
Matthew Stafford16569546525415015.970.34104.018632391222233653156
Deshaun Watson5422292083152166.831.03111.617222294214322942143
Craig Morton20744065102192804.380.42104.011661860208332423799
Mark Rypien10428372788153505.410.73107.213562084207428212793
Earl Morrall24330143834143304.750.59105.010081785198530003622
Daunte Culpepper10540113874214495.350.50105.214012006193735323417
Doug Williams8828113103142385.070.66106.512241854186419411954
Chad Pennington8928132729155985.540.64106.712511786172525632480
Bob Monnett62846158832453.841.08108.748991217069321743
Frankie Albert901893263996635.100.67104.05061263170316512253
Frank Ryan12625933180126384.870.58104.67921500168819552327
Jim McMahon11931373293159555.090.52105.110691622168219532002
Bernie Kosar12638183772192965.050.43104.010091647167627652771
Arnie Herber1161425260849123.450.68105.1485962165512702250
Tommy Thompson991717266467003.900.70104.24761208164420833062
Ed Danowski711072197338303.570.78106.2440839160610752014
Ken Stabler18441924797178374.260.25101.02911030157632163896
Greg Landry14630463609129244.240.39103.16371179156724603052
Randall Cunningham16155485436275554.970.29102.810171582155232343149
Andrew Luck8637963550230276.070.44105.213071652154420581923
Tom Flores1061806208995475.290.71106.27491277147821392479
Milt Plum12927103531124914.610.26101.6290706146126283733
Billy Wade12828883870135684.700.36102.85391038139218342464
Charley Johnson16538304645168184.390.28102.25711090134220612522
George Ratterman921502210277185.140.61104.2419912129612211743
Brian Sipe12538864270176314.540.39104.110641497125926282750
Neil Lomax10837373891183354.910.40103.89561482124825412511
Doug Flutie9225962497135725.230.47104.98451221117017031641
Phil Simms16454735413260064.750.22102.27851188115624112390
Brad Johnson17748534671244855.050.25102.78711209115423652272
Michael Vick14344064225236645.370.26102.57371162112624502341
Marc Bulger9635433441186165.250.32103.68401146111625492478
Danny White16633503561159784.770.31103.27051038110416971793
Jeff Hostetler14728612778144885.060.37103.87231045103114541426
Lamar Jackson451497139798096.550.72108.18041085101013721279
Neil O'Donnell12537033584183754.960.26102.870097093515201464
Don Meredith10427683330127424.600.31102.648686292322892722
Elvis Grbac10527372618139305.090.34103.868692988717941714
Bobby Thomason851440209558774.080.46103.028865888514302060
Pat Haden651602173769524.340.40102.627763986512241453
Bill Kenney10627482870132364.820.33103.360589584416881669
Bill Nelsen902135257493884.400.33102.941771284320492454
Ace Parker681216199845503.740.45103.72965488158621386
David Garrard8628402749152245.360.28102.954978676811361106
Matt Hasselbeck20960555829314495.190.12101.354574375030943004
Bobby Hebert11834943433169204.840.21101.945371975015981595
Frank Filchock761154198237993.290.31102.619736266212702221
Jared Goff6927132536163526.030.24102.544766262415341439
Jim Zorn14036844127158994.320.20102.050173861620962206
Cam Newton14057415375330675.760.11101.244262059020631937
Ron Jaworski18847375121209434.420.17102.062278256817861790
Derek Carr11042413960249845.890.14101.541158754817641645
Tommy Kramer12941144378184774.490.07100.718228837813881479
Eli Manning23688458405480545.430.04100.420937435232503086
Jake Delhomme10332753178166015.070.10101.124834034416971651
Jeff Blake12039073746189934.860.09101.129236734011291080
Jeff George13144934358215034.790.07101.031433527423682271
Colin Kaepernick6822372088128865.760.13101.1171284268801750
Marcus Mariota6421992057128895.860.12101.6231268250610569
Stan Humphries8828102720134804.800.09101.0192259249718696
Tony Eason901875183486904.630.13101.417424823012771243
Ed Brown1402246309495364.250.03100.5685722917692499
Bob Berry781475181259434.030.10101.0991482169071124
James Harris831371166151743.770.0899.5-4110921613651675
Gary Danielson10023012517104004.520.22102.537851220111271132
Ryan Tannehill11643154029247515.740.05100.412821319217351616
Ken O'Brien12941294080191844.650.05100.513719818313541321
Paul Christman611225193138783.170.11100.758137154550817
Josh Allen4417451629103305.920.10101.2135168153919856
Aaron Brooks9335603441173214.870.04100.5112149140990954
Jay Schroeder11832583212151444.650.03100.36211211711941180
Vince Ferragamo751769192676534.33-0.1099.0-122-17110711711434
Tyrod Taylor7218781756108705.790.06101.1132115105624582
Wade Wilson12528842843134204.650.0399.9-17749918861873
Byron Leftwich601834178290904.960.03100.2226468685668
Baker Mayfield4617181605100525.850.04100.5576966507474
Bill Munson1072304277792504.010.02100.570355911741405
Jay Fiedler762050197098694.810.02100.7924432745714
Jameis Winston7629862791172295.770.01100.1302928488456
Steve Beuerlein14738853749183684.730.0099.9-23162115311478
Erik Kramer8325742494121514.720.01100.610434915951530
Vinny Testaverde23375487334357874.740.01100.313747-2433343202
George Blanda31441595135180364.340.02100.26083-3823662849
Cotton Davidson871804209382684.58-0.02100.778-35-519571107
Andy Dalton14455075154311065.65-0.01100.124-73-6812901204
Charlie Batch811937185392324.77-0.0599.2-97-104-93697671
Jim Harbaugh17748404703226434.68-0.0299.9-45-117-11216201568
Scott Mitchell9726732565125204.68-0.0599.7-61-128-11815761515
Brian Griese9332273109154464.79-0.0499.8-38-135-13715081447
Norm Snead17848355876198984.12-0.0299.9-45-112-15525263077
Robert Griffin501506140881875.44-0.1398.0-202-189-171840788
Steve Bono881902184287714.61-0.1099.0-121-195-183626611
Steve DeBerg20655245701247774.490.01100.28246-18720282019
Chris Miller9832793215152174.64-0.0799.1-190-228-218912907
Jim Finks791500216152243.48-0.1299.1-95-173-266596852
Kyle Orton8730032879154375.14-0.1298.6-280-360-362975934
Teddy Bridgewater5818761748104355.56-0.2297.3-338-409-383187175
Jake Plummer14350624879238114.70-0.0998.8-399-434-38724712402
Steve Spurrier641232152142673.46-0.2898.0-168-347-411439552
Jay Cutler15356285346299245.32-0.0899.0-384-459-41116361571
Tobin Rote14935425048135733.83-0.0799.8-48-232-41622873145
Jason Campbell9029282815147395.03-0.1798.2-357-490-463258249
Mike Tomczak18526492591119164.50-0.1898.0-347-475-472868845
Gary Hogeboom761526151265424.29-0.2996.9-318-440-498333337
Steve Bartkowski12939904369167174.19-0.04100.389-141-51718431831
Glenn Dobbs491196162357154.78-0.3098.2-142-358-518146194
Mike Livingston912060245571233.46-0.2597.3-366-516-5298991097
Nick Foles6522682118122955.42-0.2697.0-449-597-55612201140
Dave Krieg21362226174283144.55-0.0699.2-349-395-58020171964
Vince Young601669161578394.70-0.3896.0-450-626-607346333
Gus Frerotte14735093377162834.64-0.1898.2-428-629-61911461100
Joe Ferguson18651845793210094.05-0.0899.1-321-393-65626462923
Chris Chandler18047564594218244.59-0.1498.7-397-649-67121132029
Parker Hall531058173628162.66-0.3998.2-125-411-675378620
Brian Hoyer681693158288985.26-0.4395.5-510-724-679295276
Kordell Stewart12630882961139924.53-0.2397.9-438-705-68010761031
Case Keenum6923522201126975.40-0.3196.3-586-729-680589552
Roy Zimmerman75882151921602.45-0.5696.3-216-496-711445811
Mitchell Trubisky5118781756100685.36-0.4295.3-588-795-741355333
David Woodley581585174363534.01-0.4695.3-500-735-789176172
Bob Lee77915112527362.99-0.7594.3-351-688-836425520
Alex Smith17462095869332165.35-0.1398.9-438-822-84619131791
Josh Freeman6223652245118195.00-0.4095.6-694-942-897808770
Kent Graham811560149863914.10-0.6293.6-671-972-9403332
Jim Plunkett15744045186170403.87-0.1898.4-483-793-950822919
Jack Kemp12234884057146744.21-0.2298.9-265-767-9549691125
Gary Cuozzo821372166347043.43-0.5795.4-422-778-958310370
Drew Bledsoe19475697288351154.64-0.1398.6-702-1006-98116201556
Pete Beathard1101483175750283.39-0.5795.8-416-845-1012104124
Babe Parilli18937454580157104.19-0.1599.0-238-566-110520082369
Steve Fuller901404149951013.63-0.7592.3-722-1049-1122277271
Don Majkowski902333229998264.21-0.5095.1-755-1156-1128453449
Richard Todd11934903839136803.92-0.3596.9-719-1215-11558211015
Lynn Dickey15235623932143654.03-0.2298.5-360-782-120514711441
Eddie LeBaron1342007285274633.72-0.4097.3-365-793-12109431323
Vince Evans1001720173467253.91-0.6193.9-705-1048-1230439447
Adrian Burk701102158830562.77-0.8093.7-466-878-1280215305
Mike Pagel1281760192169083.93-0.5994.0-709-1043-12876868
Carson Wentz6829292737155345.30-0.4794.4-1088-1387-1290704660
Mark Malone721893187172223.82-0.7093.4-834-1334-1354219213
Eric Hipple871851189571083.84-0.6493.6-786-1181-1367153152
Rodney Peete10328602783120304.21-0.5194.5-1054-1445-1390482475
Marc Wilson1262432240695723.94-0.6093.8-1010-1462-1421418430
Rex Grossman541735167373404.23-0.8691.2-1021-1491-143444
Derek Anderson771857178881114.37-0.8292.2-969-1520-1456725698
Al Dorow691455180952353.60-0.7594.3-553-1089-1461232267
Jim Ninowski891167152341163.53-0.8893.5-509-1029-1466170200
Billy Joe Tolliver791931188076283.95-0.7891.7-1063-1509-1472242232
Bubby Brister9925962542106864.12-0.5893.9-1052-1502-1473600579
Lamar McHan1131697244357663.40-0.6694.9-571-1125-1524575848
Rudy Bukich1031369168546843.42-0.8193.7-571-1109-15489591132
Tim Couch622004192179483.97-0.8291.2-1171-1635-15671716
Ryan Fitzpatrick16459265589312265.27-0.2797.4-1018-1623-157514191326
Bob Avellini711324154835302.67-1.0790.3-857-1421-160200
Chad Henne7122782160105924.65-0.7691.9-1232-1734-16407470
Bobby Douglass911768218753173.01-0.7793.6-753-1367-1673246306
Sam Bradford8333093114165765.01-0.5494.3-1250-1786-1693258241
Blake Bortles7831122908159075.11-0.6092.7-1519-1876-17508580
Jack Concannon901418171242442.99-1.0391.3-826-1466-1772138166
Archie Manning15144225125162663.68-0.2998.0-583-1282-194417601829
Tony Banks9728292710113144.00-0.7592.1-1486-2112-20201717
Dave Brown722007192173973.69-1.0788.6-1527-2157-206500
Joey Harrington8128042724114554.09-0.7891.8-1525-2189-212300
Joe Flacco17667956408352315.18-0.3596.0-1833-2388-2234855808
Matt Cassel10831613013145404.60-0.7591.5-1797-2382-2246803772
Jack Trudeau671844182162073.37-1.2687.2-1569-2316-226000
Kerry Collins19869726712314434.51-0.3596.4-1657-2423-232513131263
Jon Kitna14150784891221644.36-0.5094.6-1834-2559-2458314303
Kyle Boller671818176862213.42-1.5284.8-1840-2767-26835149
Rick Mirer802484239389463.60-1.1487.9-2000-2840-27362726
Randy Johnson751552187138702.49-1.5187.9-1250-2337-2779325404
Josh McCown10031162963137794.42-0.9389.8-2109-2905-2783645603
Frank Tripucka751788221453502.99-1.2490.3-1161-2215-2816162213
Mark Sanchez7926582519113994.29-1.1487.9-2153-3037-287600
Zeke Bratkowski1321621213048102.97-1.3289.8-1103-2144-2914294351
David Carr9428392757107263.78-1.0888.4-2199-3070-2973208202
Blaine Gabbert601838172670503.84-1.7680.5-2390-3237-30473230
Mike Phipps1192225263957952.60-1.2389.7-1535-2734-3207149169
Trent Dilfer13036833539141463.84-0.9490.1-2441-3456-3325272261
Dan Pastorini14035174130102212.91-0.9192.1-1864-3191-3702296315

A few thoughts:

Peyton leads in every career value metric, and by a decent distance. Drew Brees and Brady finish on the medal podium in each version of the career total value. I think this has to do with the three of them being very good, statistically, for a very long time, and over a high volume of plays. Brett Favre and Fran Tarkenton were high volume players as well, but their statistical heights never really reached those of the big three.

Patrick Mahomes ranks 28th in VAL after just three seasons as a starter. His TAY/P+ is easily the highest ever, and he is doing it in the most competitive passing environment. Appreciate this while it is happening, folks.

Joe Montana outstrips Steve Young in career value when accounting for all seasons, but Young usurps the king when getting rid of those pesky Tampa Bay years.

Philip Rivers finds himself in Hall of Fame company, but I doubt he will ever get the call. Ken Anderson at least had an MVP and a Super Bowl appearance, though I think Rivers was the more talented passer.

Jeff Garcia had a weird career.

I will leave further discussion to the FP faithful.

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1 I didn’t include it in the chart, but you can divide his career Z Value by his career plays, you will see his career z-score, which goes into his TAY/P+ metric. If you take the z-score and multiply by 15, then add it to 100, you will arrive at his TAY/P+.
2 Johnny Lujack is the odd man out here. He had 948 action plays, and his inflation adjustment bumps him to 1358—still shy of the 1500 play threshold. In his brief career, he had a VAL/P of 2.36, a TAY/P+ of 115.6, a VAL of 2224, and an AdjVAL of 3224. On a per-season basis, he is among the most dominant producers in the game. In fact, he trails only Otto Graham, Patrick Mahomes, Peyton Manning, and Cecil Isbell.
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