We’ve come to the end of the line. After several posts ranking and reranking, thinking and rethinking, quarterbacks with Total Adjusted Yards per Play and its descendants, this is the one I imagine most readers really want to see. Today, we are looking at measured performance in the regular season and playoffs combined. This is where guys like Y.A. Tittle, who feasted in the regular season but nearly always faltered in the postseason, see their positions fall down the list. Where passers like Jim Plunkett, whose regular season performances left much to be desired but went full tilt bozo in the playoffs, rise up the ranks. As far as the NFL record book is concerned, the playoffs don’t count toward career stats or win-loss totals. While I understand not rewarding players for getting to participate in more games, I can see the argument that it is equally unfair not to reward them for playing well enough to continue the march toward a championship. In order to balance those ideas, I have only counted playoff performances that measured above average by TAY/P.
A quick word on the numbers I’m using. You can find more detail in previous articles in the series, but this should be sufficient to introduce the rookies and refresh the veterans.
- The base metric for everything here is Total Adjusted Yards, which is defined as: passing yards – sack yards + rushing yards +20*pass touchdowns + 20*rush touchdowns – 45*interceptions – 25*fumbles
- Plays are simply passes + sacks + rushes
- Divide them and get TAY/P.
- VAL/P is defined as: a player’s TAY/P in a given season – the three-year rolling league average of TAY/P
- VAL, short for value, is: VAL/P * plays [1]Because of the way this compares players against average, rather than replacement, I have considered changing the name to DOM, short for dominance. But that feels a little too pro wrestling for my … Continue reading
- PV (positive value) is a player’s VAL in the regular season and only his positively valued scores from the postseason, with the idea that the playoffs should only help and never hurt.
- pLev is short for positive championship leverage. It applies the idea of the increased importance of playoff games, relative to regular season games, when it comes to winning a championship. You can read about it in great detail in the original championship leverage article, and in less detail in the leverage update article.
- pRet is short for positive retroactive championship leverage. It takes the value of a modern Super Bowl and applies it to every highest-level championship game in each year. Playoff games preceding the title games are given half that credit, and so on. This is meant to treat titles equally, rather than giving less credit to the quarterbacks who helped build the game into what it is today.
- TAYP+ is a fairly straightforward concept designed to present the reader with a familiar looking efficiency metric, similar to Pro Football Reference’s passing index scores. It is defined as: the player’s standard deviation of TAY/P above or below league average (z score)*15 +100. Thus, 100 will always represent league average, and every 15 points will equal one standard deviation.
- ZVAL, or Z Value, is a somewhat abstract concept. A value metric, it can be considered alongside VAL as a another way or measuring volume of above average performance. It is defined as: a player’s z score multiplied by his number of plays. Z Value does not remove negative seasons or negative playoff performances.
The Table
The table below contains the 286 quarterbacks with at least 1000 career plays and is initially sort by VAL. Read it thus: Peyton Manning produced 75134 Total Adjusted Yards in 11213 plays at 6.70 TAY/P. His TAY/P was 1.56 above average, giving him a VAL of 17523. His PV eliminates his bookend seasons, leaving him with 18526. Manning had a positive leverage-adjusted VAL of 125772 and a retro-adjusted VAL of 125826. His TAYP+ was 116.8, and his Z Value was 12566.
Player | TAY | Ply | TAY/P | VAL/P | VAL | PV | pLev | pRet | TAYP+ | ZVAL |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Peyton Manning | 75134 | 11213 | 6.70 | 1.56 | 17523 | 18526 | 125772 | 125826 | 116.8 | 12566 |
Tom Brady | 89276 | 13704 | 6.51 | 1.11 | 15264 | 16187 | 239855 | 239910 | 112.5 | 11461 |
Drew Brees | 81214 | 12259 | 6.62 | 1.21 | 14822 | 15170 | 68717 | 68717 | 113.6 | 11153 |
Dan Marino | 57733 | 9653 | 5.98 | 1.32 | 12695 | 13338 | 69276 | 72546 | 113.6 | 8757 |
Joe Montana | 44045 | 7004 | 6.29 | 1.75 | 12270 | 12574 | 241010 | 256043 | 117.3 | 8075 |
Aaron Rodgers | 59821 | 8557 | 6.99 | 1.36 | 11604 | 11827 | 81605 | 81605 | 115.5 | 8844 |
Otto Graham | 22095 | 3429 | 6.44 | 3.26 | 11171 | 11463 | 32553 | 101937 | 115.4 | 3521 |
Steve Young | 37835 | 5822 | 6.50 | 1.79 | 10428 | 10693 | 105660 | 110297 | 119.0 | 7374 |
Fran Tarkenton | 39898 | 7962 | 5.01 | 1.26 | 10030 | 10408 | 16185 | 19347 | 108.2 | 4327 |
Sid Luckman | 11424 | 2060 | 5.55 | 4.31 | 8885 | 9043 | 27324 | 121788 | 116.2 | 2229 |
Johnny Unitas | 32479 | 6134 | 5.29 | 1.44 | 8838 | 9114 | 29307 | 65188 | 108.2 | 3342 |
Ken Anderson | 29270 | 5476 | 5.35 | 1.59 | 8724 | 8769 | 42037 | 45971 | 111.5 | 4207 |
Sammy Baugh | 15948 | 3427 | 4.65 | 2.49 | 8544 | 8685 | 19623 | 77315 | 109.8 | 2231 |
Norm Van Brocklin | 17622 | 3104 | 5.68 | 2.66 | 8271 | 8599 | 17271 | 49229 | 113.2 | 2724 |
Dan Fouts | 34552 | 6454 | 5.35 | 1.25 | 8093 | 8444 | 30341 | 33060 | 111.1 | 4794 |
Philip Rivers | 60195 | 9426 | 6.39 | 0.86 | 8067 | 8302 | 30246 | 30246 | 109.5 | 5960 |
Sonny Jurgensen | 25756 | 4696 | 5.48 | 1.58 | 7405 | 7518 | 7518 | 7518 | 110.3 | 3237 |
Roger Staubach | 22198 | 4228 | 5.25 | 1.74 | 7343 | 7932 | 58992 | 80955 | 112.8 | 3610 |
Brett Favre | 66333 | 12175 | 5.45 | 0.60 | 7256 | 7918 | 98627 | 100457 | 106.5 | 5313 |
Ben Roethlisberger | 59910 | 9717 | 6.17 | 0.71 | 6896 | 7378 | 58671 | 58671 | 108.1 | 5274 |
Matt Ryan | 55087 | 8710 | 6.32 | 0.70 | 6115 | 6436 | 73025 | 73025 | 108.4 | 4878 |
Len Dawson | 23793 | 4486 | 5.30 | 1.31 | 5883 | 5990 | 17098 | 24407 | 109.1 | 2720 |
Kurt Warner | 30504 | 5009 | 6.09 | 1.13 | 5683 | 5800 | 119181 | 119952 | 112.0 | 4013 |
Tony Romo | 32343 | 5038 | 6.42 | 1.06 | 5332 | 5563 | 9655 | 9655 | 111.7 | 3916 |
John Elway | 48634 | 9324 | 5.22 | 0.57 | 5302 | 5828 | 127015 | 134036 | 106.0 | 3739 |
Daryle Lamonica | 16906 | 3188 | 5.30 | 1.57 | 5012 | 5410 | 51295 | 79816 | 109.9 | 2107 |
John Brodie | 25029 | 5018 | 4.99 | 0.96 | 4805 | 4904 | 13151 | 17891 | 107.0 | 2341 |
Y.A. Tittle | 24501 | 4991 | 4.91 | 0.96 | 4797 | 5463 | 5463 | 5463 | 105.2 | 1741 |
Cecil Isbell | 6790 | 1301 | 5.22 | 3.62 | 4710 | 4710 | 6551 | 15867 | 115.0 | 1304 |
Russell Wilson | 39858 | 6115 | 6.52 | 0.76 | 4672 | 5030 | 81081 | 81081 | 109.4 | 3821 |
Bart Starr | 20338 | 3875 | 5.25 | 1.15 | 4464 | 4480 | 53616 | 116371 | 107.8 | 2007 |
Patrick Mahomes | 17871 | 2287 | 7.81 | 1.89 | 4318 | 4615 | 56304 | 56304 | 122.5 | 3435 |
Joe Namath | 19752 | 4108 | 4.81 | 1.03 | 4226 | 4374 | 20637 | 30021 | 106.3 | 1720 |
Jeff Garcia | 26306 | 4570 | 5.76 | 0.88 | 4007 | 4368 | 12224 | 12224 | 109.9 | 3021 |
Bert Jones | 15656 | 3111 | 5.03 | 1.26 | 3935 | 4018 | 5122 | 5737 | 108.9 | 1854 |
Jim Kelly | 31985 | 6020 | 5.31 | 0.65 | 3891 | 4720 | 56833 | 59371 | 106.6 | 2631 |
Donovan McNabb | 39040 | 7097 | 5.50 | 0.55 | 3871 | 4489 | 34494 | 34550 | 105.7 | 2694 |
Trent Green | 24707 | 4304 | 5.74 | 0.89 | 3817 | 3999 | 8441 | 8441 | 109.7 | 2774 |
Terry Bradshaw | 24045 | 5184 | 4.64 | 0.72 | 3755 | 3991 | 115688 | 143852 | 106.4 | 2223 |
John Hadl | 24445 | 5323 | 4.59 | 0.67 | 3545 | 3810 | 8934 | 27650 | 104.4 | 1551 |
Bob Griese | 19080 | 4261 | 4.48 | 0.82 | 3483 | 3727 | 21694 | 31900 | 105.6 | 1588 |
Troy Aikman | 31200 | 5869 | 5.32 | 0.59 | 3476 | 4006 | 125524 | 130326 | 106.4 | 2490 |
Jim Hart | 24649 | 5603 | 4.40 | 0.61 | 3420 | 3427 | 3823 | 4051 | 103.3 | 1238 |
Steve McNair | 31426 | 5847 | 5.37 | 0.56 | 3254 | 3626 | 30157 | 30311 | 106.2 | 2417 |
Roman Gabriel | 23600 | 5282 | 4.47 | 0.58 | 3087 | 3133 | 3133 | 3133 | 103.9 | 1386 |
Rich Gannon | 28192 | 5278 | 5.34 | 0.58 | 3071 | 3403 | 29695 | 29785 | 106.7 | 2372 |
Bob Waterfield | 7733 | 1831 | 4.22 | 1.64 | 3002 | 3179 | 12894 | 45815 | 107.0 | 860 |
Warren Moon | 41537 | 8286 | 5.01 | 0.36 | 2999 | 3384 | 16671 | 17407 | 103.7 | 2029 |
Bobby Layne | 18611 | 4445 | 4.19 | 0.67 | 2959 | 3401 | 6356 | 16216 | 103.0 | 900 |
Charlie Conerly | 13969 | 3211 | 4.35 | 0.92 | 2941 | 3131 | 18079 | 71490 | 104.2 | 901 |
Boomer Esiason | 31296 | 6102 | 5.13 | 0.47 | 2889 | 3168 | 6639 | 6801 | 104.8 | 1953 |
Joe Theismann | 22058 | 4553 | 4.84 | 0.62 | 2836 | 3003 | 24623 | 28794 | 105.7 | 1734 |
Carson Palmer | 40350 | 7076 | 5.70 | 0.36 | 2582 | 2960 | 5430 | 5430 | 104.3 | 2023 |
Billy Kilmer | 16150 | 3638 | 4.44 | 0.69 | 2506 | 2680 | 17526 | 25851 | 104.4 | 1076 |
Dak Prescott | 18846 | 2815 | 6.69 | 0.88 | 2473 | 2473 | 11822 | 11822 | 110.8 | 2018 |
Jim Everett | 28938 | 5632 | 5.14 | 0.44 | 2472 | 2751 | 6394 | 6643 | 104.7 | 1755 |
Mark Brunell | 30771 | 5908 | 5.21 | 0.41 | 2432 | 2968 | 15328 | 15551 | 104.6 | 1828 |
Ken Stabler | 20092 | 4579 | 4.39 | 0.52 | 2397 | 2469 | 48373 | 72325 | 102.3 | 708 |
Mark Rypien | 16807 | 3096 | 5.43 | 0.75 | 2329 | 2436 | 42845 | 44675 | 107.3 | 1517 |
Steve Grogan | 20311 | 4398 | 4.62 | 0.53 | 2325 | 2583 | 4887 | 6057 | 104.2 | 1224 |
Matt Schaub | 22657 | 3816 | 5.94 | 0.61 | 2324 | 2336 | 3080 | 3080 | 105.8 | 1487 |
Matthew Stafford | 42310 | 7083 | 5.97 | 0.33 | 2312 | 2351 | 5467 | 5467 | 104.1 | 1919 |
Kirk Cousins | 26857 | 4240 | 6.33 | 0.54 | 2306 | 2539 | 3670 | 3670 | 106.9 | 1949 |
Deshaun Watson | 16232 | 2397 | 6.77 | 0.91 | 2186 | 2260 | 7553 | 7553 | 111.0 | 1752 |
Daunte Culpepper | 22380 | 4173 | 5.36 | 0.50 | 2095 | 2369 | 18498 | 18637 | 105.4 | 1501 |
Earl Morrall | 15129 | 3217 | 4.70 | 0.63 | 2014 | 2177 | 9248 | 13352 | 104.8 | 1020 |
Bernie Kosar | 21002 | 4118 | 5.10 | 0.49 | 2011 | 2236 | 38883 | 42583 | 104.4 | 1219 |
Jim McMahon | 17007 | 3324 | 5.12 | 0.57 | 1886 | 2110 | 50895 | 54157 | 105.5 | 1226 |
Doug Williams | 14984 | 3003 | 4.99 | 0.58 | 1754 | 2154 | 45563 | 51450 | 105.7 | 1140 |
Frank Ryan | 13048 | 2681 | 4.87 | 0.65 | 1743 | 1883 | 10440 | 29116 | 104.6 | 817 |
Frankie Albert | 9870 | 1953 | 5.05 | 0.84 | 1650 | 1765 | 1765 | 1765 | 103.6 | 474 |
Tommy Thompson | 7032 | 1821 | 3.86 | 0.90 | 1640 | 1795 | 5307 | 19106 | 104.0 | 487 |
Randall Cunningham | 29645 | 5985 | 4.95 | 0.27 | 1593 | 1888 | 16125 | 16517 | 102.6 | 1042 |
Chad Pennington | 16638 | 3057 | 5.44 | 0.52 | 1582 | 2020 | 9233 | 9233 | 105.7 | 1156 |
Craig Morton | 19803 | 4673 | 4.24 | 0.34 | 1571 | 2371 | 16713 | 24013 | 102.8 | 860 |
Arnie Herber | 5022 | 1492 | 3.37 | 1.05 | 1564 | 1851 | 8353 | 41377 | 104.6 | 462 |
Ed Danowski | 3858 | 1097 | 3.52 | 1.42 | 1557 | 1682 | 4147 | 16738 | 105.7 | 414 |
Jeff Hostetler | 15696 | 3007 | 5.22 | 0.52 | 1551 | 1551 | 29362 | 30634 | 105.4 | 1087 |
Tom Flores | 9547 | 1806 | 5.29 | 0.83 | 1506 | 1506 | 1506 | 1506 | 106.3 | 763 |
Greg Landry | 12925 | 3064 | 4.22 | 0.49 | 1499 | 1569 | 1569 | 1569 | 102.9 | 596 |
Andrew Luck | 25000 | 4165 | 6.00 | 0.35 | 1450 | 1835 | 8977 | 8977 | 104.5 | 1238 |
Billy Wade | 13680 | 2929 | 4.67 | 0.47 | 1384 | 1466 | 2510 | 5254 | 102.7 | 528 |
Charley Johnson | 16818 | 3830 | 4.39 | 0.35 | 1352 | 1352 | 1352 | 1352 | 102.3 | 575 |
Milt Plum | 12472 | 2744 | 4.55 | 0.48 | 1317 | 1479 | 1479 | 1479 | 101.2 | 213 |
Neil Lomax | 18591 | 3797 | 4.90 | 0.33 | 1235 | 1249 | 1249 | 1249 | 103.7 | 947 |
Marc Bulger | 19343 | 3675 | 5.26 | 0.33 | 1203 | 1265 | 5999 | 5999 | 103.6 | 894 |
Michael Vick | 24657 | 4595 | 5.37 | 0.26 | 1190 | 1347 | 8828 | 8828 | 102.5 | 773 |
George Ratterman | 8011 | 1582 | 5.06 | 0.75 | 1188 | 1396 | 3268 | 10270 | 103.6 | 379 |
Doug Flutie | 13909 | 2673 | 5.20 | 0.43 | 1152 | 1260 | 3411 | 3465 | 104.7 | 835 |
Matt Hasselbeck | 34069 | 6505 | 5.24 | 0.17 | 1133 | 1215 | 23317 | 23317 | 101.8 | 791 |
Bobby Thomason | 5877 | 1440 | 4.08 | 0.69 | 1001 | 1001 | 1001 | 1001 | 103.5 | 339 |
Brian Sipe | 17578 | 3934 | 4.47 | 0.25 | 994 | 1260 | 1260 | 1260 | 103.3 | 878 |
Phil Simms | 27345 | 5806 | 4.71 | 0.17 | 992 | 1516 | 49665 | 52899 | 101.7 | 658 |
Don Meredith | 13097 | 2859 | 4.58 | 0.32 | 916 | 1176 | 10088 | 17109 | 102.5 | 474 |
Brad Johnson | 25407 | 5098 | 4.98 | 0.18 | 910 | 1278 | 17625 | 17636 | 102.1 | 702 |
Bill Kenney | 13333 | 2764 | 4.82 | 0.32 | 871 | 871 | 1457 | 1498 | 103.4 | 621 |
Neil O'Donnell | 19735 | 4005 | 4.93 | 0.22 | 866 | 1269 | 20113 | 20950 | 102.5 | 658 |
David Garrard | 15640 | 2919 | 5.36 | 0.27 | 792 | 850 | 4605 | 4605 | 102.9 | 565 |
Danny White | 17420 | 3750 | 4.65 | 0.21 | 779 | 1295 | 12038 | 14293 | 101.9 | 482 |
Colin Kaepernick | 14604 | 2461 | 5.93 | 0.31 | 752 | 800 | 53388 | 53388 | 103.2 | 521 |
Ace Parker | 4591 | 1243 | 3.69 | 0.59 | 731 | 816 | 816 | 816 | 103.2 | 262 |
Lamar Jackson | 10693 | 1706 | 6.27 | 0.40 | 676 | 1022 | 1310 | 1310 | 104.9 | 554 |
Bobby Hebert | 17298 | 3605 | 4.80 | 0.17 | 620 | 751 | 751 | 751 | 101.5 | 371 |
Pat Haden | 7220 | 1752 | 4.12 | 0.34 | 589 | 944 | 4627 | 4878 | 101.1 | 127 |
Elvis Grbac | 14364 | 2893 | 4.97 | 0.20 | 581 | 963 | 3567 | 3619 | 102.4 | 462 |
Bill Nelsen | 9717 | 2283 | 4.26 | 0.25 | 565 | 965 | 4775 | 7020 | 101.7 | 256 |
Derek Carr | 24984 | 4241 | 5.89 | 0.13 | 548 | 548 | 548 | 548 | 101.5 | 411 |
Jim Zorn | 15960 | 3713 | 4.30 | 0.15 | 548 | 617 | 617 | 617 | 101.8 | 458 |
Eli Manning | 50589 | 9292 | 5.44 | 0.06 | 545 | 885 | 32498 | 32498 | 100.6 | 354 |
Cam Newton | 34767 | 6048 | 5.75 | 0.09 | 542 | 858 | 21334 | 21334 | 101.0 | 395 |
Jeff George | 22431 | 4636 | 4.84 | 0.11 | 518 | 532 | 10071 | 10191 | 101.5 | 479 |
Jared Goff | 17531 | 2938 | 5.97 | 0.17 | 511 | 642 | 1064 | 1064 | 101.9 | 362 |
Jake Delhomme | 18004 | 3532 | 5.10 | 0.14 | 482 | 827 | 46573 | 46573 | 101.5 | 354 |
Ron Jaworski | 22111 | 5049 | 4.38 | 0.09 | 440 | 814 | 7976 | 10362 | 101.6 | 524 |
Jeff Blake | 18993 | 3907 | 4.86 | 0.09 | 341 | 341 | 341 | 341 | 101.1 | 292 |
Spec Sanders | 5285 | 1003 | 5.27 | 0.34 | 339 | 401 | 409 | 450 | 101.5 | 99 |
Tony Eason | 9248 | 1976 | 4.68 | 0.17 | 339 | 432 | 10676 | 11372 | 101.9 | 248 |
Frank Filchock | 3663 | 1232 | 2.97 | 0.25 | 309 | 713 | 2236 | 10973 | 100.4 | 33 |
Marcus Mariota | 13408 | 2290 | 5.86 | 0.11 | 249 | 252 | 295 | 295 | 101.5 | 230 |
Jimmy Garoppolo | 7386 | 1229 | 6.01 | 0.19 | 228 | 342 | 342 | 342 | 102.2 | 181 |
Bob Berry | 5943 | 1475 | 4.03 | 0.15 | 217 | 217 | 217 | 217 | 101.0 | 99 |
Aaron Brooks | 17848 | 3656 | 4.88 | 0.06 | 215 | 215 | 2159 | 2184 | 100.7 | 167 |
Vinny Testaverde | 36985 | 7751 | 4.77 | 0.03 | 207 | 304 | 11338 | 11633 | 100.6 | 303 |
Steve Pelluer | 5678 | 1197 | 4.74 | 0.16 | 195 | 195 | 195 | 195 | 101.4 | 109 |
Tobin Rote | 14380 | 3654 | 3.94 | 0.05 | 177 | 271 | 19158 | 84065 | 100.8 | 205 |
Ken O'Brien | 19522 | 4211 | 4.64 | 0.04 | 150 | 201 | 617 | 646 | 100.4 | 117 |
James Harris | 5312 | 1431 | 3.71 | 0.10 | 136 | 256 | 2784 | 4216 | 99.1 | -82 |
Erik Kramer | 12966 | 2722 | 4.76 | 0.05 | 135 | 226 | 10631 | 11107 | 101.0 | 182 |
Kyler Murray | 8361 | 1401 | 5.97 | 0.10 | 133 | 133 | 133 | 133 | 101.2 | 112 |
Ed Brown | 9911 | 2359 | 4.20 | 0.06 | 130 | 225 | 225 | 225 | 100.1 | 9 |
Tommy Kramer | 18932 | 4272 | 4.43 | 0.03 | 119 | 449 | 2118 | 2801 | 100.0 | 3 |
Baker Mayfield | 10560 | 1798 | 5.87 | 0.06 | 104 | 163 | 2547 | 2547 | 100.7 | 86 |
Jameis Winston | 17305 | 2987 | 5.79 | 0.03 | 98 | 98 | 3618 | 3618 | 100.4 | 83 |
Ryan Tannehill | 25279 | 4422 | 5.72 | 0.02 | 93 | 239 | 3395 | 3395 | 100.2 | 54 |
Josh Allen | 11502 | 1956 | 5.88 | 0.04 | 87 | 262 | 2920 | 2920 | 100.7 | 86 |
Steve Beuerlein | 18594 | 3921 | 4.74 | 0.02 | 81 | 97 | 1891 | 1975 | 100.1 | 15 |
Paul Christman | 3844 | 1247 | 3.08 | 0.06 | 74 | 179 | 179 | 179 | 100.2 | 19 |
Wade Wilson | 14463 | 3119 | 4.64 | 0.02 | 55 | 324 | 7754 | 8766 | 99.7 | -53 |
Bill Munson | 9249 | 2312 | 4.00 | 0.01 | 27 | 59 | 59 | 59 | 100.3 | 50 |
Gary Danielson | 10416 | 2345 | 4.44 | 0.01 | 20 | 201 | 201 | 201 | 101.7 | 263 |
Vince Ferragamo | 8428 | 1977 | 4.26 | 0.00 | -9 | 276 | 10779 | 11490 | 98.5 | -194 |
Byron Leftwich | 9193 | 1877 | 4.90 | -0.02 | -41 | 68 | 68 | 68 | 99.6 | -49 |
Craig Erickson | 5846 | 1251 | 4.67 | -0.04 | -45 | -45 | -45 | -45 | 99.8 | -17 |
Tyrod Taylor | 10971 | 1924 | 5.70 | -0.03 | -56 | 105 | 105 | 105 | 100.1 | 11 |
Jim Finks | 5224 | 1500 | 3.48 | -0.04 | -60 | -60 | -60 | -60 | 99.8 | -20 |
Charlie Batch | 9232 | 1937 | 4.77 | -0.05 | -93 | -93 | -93 | -93 | 99.2 | -97 |
Rob Johnson | 5209 | 1119 | 4.66 | -0.10 | -107 | 10 | 938 | 938 | 98.7 | -94 |
Brian Griese | 15446 | 3227 | 4.79 | -0.04 | -137 | -137 | -137 | -137 | 99.8 | -38 |
Norm Snead | 19898 | 4835 | 4.12 | -0.03 | -137 | -137 | -137 | -137 | 99.9 | -38 |
Stan Humphries | 14280 | 3063 | 4.66 | -0.05 | -146 | 272 | 2447 | 2545 | 99.6 | -80 |
Steve DeBerg | 25143 | 5604 | 4.49 | -0.03 | -192 | -96 | 2044 | 2145 | 100.2 | 83 |
George Blanda | 18515 | 4358 | 4.25 | -0.05 | -201 | 391 | 8330 | 44918 | 99.8 | -55 |
Shaun Hill | 7198 | 1400 | 5.14 | -0.15 | -215 | -215 | -215 | -215 | 98.0 | -189 |
Jay Fiedler | 10232 | 2180 | 4.69 | -0.10 | -221 | 146 | 5821 | 5892 | 99.3 | -102 |
Jay Schroeder | 15578 | 3434 | 4.54 | -0.07 | -252 | 184 | 3390 | 3537 | 99.2 | -184 |
Robert Griffin | 8246 | 1532 | 5.38 | -0.17 | -255 | -171 | -171 | -171 | 97.4 | -262 |
Nick Foles | 13852 | 2492 | 5.56 | -0.11 | -272 | -184 | 50771 | 50771 | 98.6 | -237 |
Steve Bono | 8793 | 1929 | 4.56 | -0.15 | -290 | -177 | 100 | 113 | 98.4 | -201 |
Ty Detmer | 4903 | 1108 | 4.43 | -0.30 | -330 | -267 | -267 | -267 | 96.5 | -261 |
John Friesz | 6651 | 1491 | 4.46 | -0.23 | -339 | -339 | -339 | -339 | 98.0 | -203 |
Jim Harbaugh | 23391 | 5046 | 4.64 | -0.07 | -340 | -3 | 9586 | 9819 | 99.4 | -197 |
Jay Cutler | 30288 | 5685 | 5.33 | -0.06 | -350 | -260 | 7375 | 7375 | 99.1 | -345 |
Chris Miller | 15425 | 3354 | 4.60 | -0.11 | -357 | -161 | 1197 | 1260 | 98.8 | -279 |
Kyle Orton | 15437 | 3003 | 5.14 | -0.12 | -362 | -362 | -362 | -362 | 98.6 | -280 |
Scott Mitchell | 12557 | 2733 | 4.59 | -0.13 | -366 | -118 | -118 | -118 | 98.7 | -241 |
Jeff Kemp | 4730 | 1134 | 4.17 | -0.35 | -394 | -303 | -217 | -211 | 96.7 | -252 |
Steve Spurrier | 4267 | 1232 | 3.46 | -0.33 | -411 | -411 | -411 | -411 | 98.0 | -168 |
Jim Plunkett | 18971 | 4716 | 4.02 | -0.09 | -415 | -255 | 78183 | 84270 | 99.6 | -123 |
Teddy Bridgewater | 10560 | 1906 | 5.54 | -0.23 | -431 | -383 | -383 | -383 | 97.0 | -378 |
Cotton Davidson | 8224 | 1881 | 4.37 | -0.25 | -462 | -462 | -462 | -462 | 99.5 | -61 |
Jason Campbell | 14739 | 2928 | 5.03 | -0.16 | -464 | -464 | -464 | -464 | 98.2 | -357 |
Jim Miller | 4949 | 1147 | 4.31 | -0.44 | -503 | -445 | -445 | -445 | 94.8 | -394 |
Gary Hogeboom | 6654 | 1555 | 4.28 | -0.33 | -517 | -498 | -498 | -498 | 96.8 | -330 |
Glenn Dobbs | 5715 | 1196 | 4.78 | -0.44 | -523 | -523 | -523 | -523 | 98.2 | -142 |
Mike Livingston | 7123 | 2060 | 3.46 | -0.26 | -530 | -530 | -530 | -530 | 97.3 | -366 |
Andy Dalton | 31660 | 5693 | 5.56 | -0.10 | -542 | -68 | -68 | -68 | 99.1 | -329 |
Alex Smith | 35214 | 6515 | 5.41 | -0.09 | -570 | -469 | 15908 | 15908 | 99.5 | -238 |
Chris Chandler | 22452 | 4869 | 4.61 | -0.12 | -578 | -505 | 15898 | 16296 | 99.0 | -333 |
Damon Huard | 4835 | 1112 | 4.35 | -0.52 | -582 | -492 | -492 | -492 | 94.6 | -402 |
Jake Plummer | 24734 | 5294 | 4.67 | -0.11 | -584 | -314 | 1523 | 1523 | 98.5 | -533 |
Steve Ramsey | 3458 | 1064 | 3.25 | -0.57 | -603 | -603 | -603 | -603 | 96.1 | -274 |
Dave Krieg | 29749 | 6546 | 4.54 | -0.10 | -629 | -213 | 9914 | 10719 | 99.1 | -380 |
Steve Bartkowski | 17110 | 4117 | 4.16 | -0.16 | -645 | -386 | 4821 | 5177 | 100.0 | 13 |
Mitchell Trubisky | 10609 | 1959 | 5.42 | -0.34 | -668 | -668 | 1147 | 1147 | 95.9 | -532 |
Parker Hall | 2816 | 1058 | 2.66 | -0.64 | -676 | -676 | -676 | -676 | 98.2 | -125 |
Mike Tomczak | 12435 | 2802 | 4.44 | -0.24 | -678 | -429 | 596 | 644 | 97.4 | -488 |
Vince Young | 7935 | 1703 | 4.66 | -0.40 | -681 | -608 | -608 | -608 | 95.6 | -501 |
Frank Reich | 4948 | 1209 | 4.09 | -0.58 | -705 | -583 | 8263 | 8651 | 93.6 | -520 |
Jacoby Brissett | 6342 | 1230 | 5.16 | -0.58 | -719 | -713 | -713 | -713 | 93.0 | -575 |
Trent Edwards | 4761 | 1076 | 4.42 | -0.67 | -720 | -720 | -720 | -720 | 93.2 | -487 |
Case Keenum | 13160 | 2445 | 5.38 | -0.31 | -749 | -640 | 1435 | 1435 | 96.1 | -637 |
Shaun King | 4076 | 1022 | 3.99 | -0.75 | -767 | -458 | -458 | -458 | 92.2 | -532 |
Kelly Holcomb | 4313 | 1053 | 4.10 | -0.73 | -772 | -772 | 4722 | 4722 | 92.6 | -517 |
Joe Ferguson | 21441 | 5312 | 4.04 | -0.15 | -775 | -548 | 2915 | 4909 | 98.8 | -420 |
Tommy Maddox | 6206 | 1465 | 4.24 | -0.55 | -809 | -782 | 3522 | 3522 | 94.5 | -536 |
Patrick Ramsey | 4188 | 1040 | 4.03 | -0.80 | -830 | -824 | -824 | -824 | 91.5 | -586 |
David Woodley | 6791 | 1694 | 4.01 | -0.50 | -842 | -508 | 6061 | 8754 | 95.3 | -535 |
Gus Frerotte | 16461 | 3596 | 4.58 | -0.24 | -855 | -620 | -620 | -620 | 97.5 | -595 |
Matt Moore | 6038 | 1274 | 4.74 | -0.68 | -863 | -803 | -803 | -803 | 92.8 | -608 |
Brandon Weeden | 5126 | 1093 | 4.69 | -0.80 | -879 | -879 | -879 | -879 | 90.3 | -704 |
Marty Domres | 3121 | 1036 | 3.01 | -0.87 | -898 | -767 | -767 | -767 | 94.5 | -381 |
Josh Freeman | 11819 | 2365 | 5.00 | -0.38 | -898 | -898 | -898 | -898 | 95.6 | -694 |
Quincy Carter | 5031 | 1235 | 4.07 | -0.74 | -916 | -837 | -837 | -837 | 91.8 | -677 |
Babe Parilli | 16084 | 3819 | 4.21 | -0.24 | -931 | -847 | 1599 | 10740 | 99.4 | -160 |
Tarvaris Jackson | 6178 | 1373 | 4.50 | -0.68 | -934 | -835 | -835 | -835 | 92.7 | -671 |
Kent Graham | 6391 | 1560 | 4.10 | -0.60 | -941 | -941 | -941 | -941 | 93.6 | -671 |
Lynn Dickey | 14882 | 3625 | 4.11 | -0.27 | -974 | -974 | 3106 | 4802 | 99.2 | -205 |
Kordell Stewart | 14637 | 3286 | 4.45 | -0.30 | -975 | -640 | 338 | 363 | 97.0 | -650 |
Brian Hoyer | 8779 | 1731 | 5.07 | -0.59 | -1018 | -680 | -680 | -680 | 93.1 | -792 |
Eddie LeBaron | 7463 | 2007 | 3.72 | -0.53 | -1061 | -1061 | -1061 | -1061 | 97.6 | -316 |
Don Majkowski | 10018 | 2359 | 4.25 | -0.45 | -1061 | -1061 | 556 | 597 | 95.5 | -705 |
Mike Glennon | 5083 | 1103 | 4.61 | -0.98 | -1083 | -1083 | -1083 | -1083 | 88.0 | -885 |
Dick Wood | 4753 | 1220 | 3.90 | -0.89 | -1084 | -1084 | -1084 | -1084 | 93.6 | -522 |
Gary Cuozzo | 4794 | 1428 | 3.36 | -0.76 | -1088 | -959 | -959 | -959 | 94.8 | -497 |
Hugh Millen | 4055 | 1119 | 3.62 | -1.02 | -1145 | -1145 | -1145 | -1145 | 89.9 | -753 |
David Whitehurst | 3614 | 1156 | 3.13 | -1.00 | -1155 | -1155 | -1155 | -1155 | 91.6 | -648 |
Steve Dils | 3807 | 1097 | 3.47 | -1.06 | -1165 | -1165 | -1165 | -1165 | 90.2 | -718 |
Jack Kemp | 15279 | 3679 | 4.15 | -0.32 | -1187 | -820 | 2437 | 17448 | 98.4 | -395 |
Steve Walsh | 5890 | 1505 | 3.91 | -0.80 | -1204 | -1000 | 758 | 841 | 91.2 | -886 |
Steve Fuller | 5294 | 1468 | 3.61 | -0.83 | -1216 | -1025 | 3625 | 3942 | 92.0 | -785 |
Daniel Jones | 5136 | 1100 | 4.67 | -1.12 | -1228 | -1228 | -1228 | -1228 | 86.6 | -984 |
Rodney Peete | 12367 | 2897 | 4.27 | -0.43 | -1231 | -1210 | 3129 | 3238 | 95.2 | -935 |
Mike Pagel | 7081 | 1786 | 3.96 | -0.69 | -1237 | -1237 | -52 | 30 | 94.3 | -677 |
Jack Thompson | 3176 | 1001 | 3.17 | -1.25 | -1254 | -1254 | -351 | -290 | 87.4 | -842 |
Mark Malone | 7657 | 1971 | 3.88 | -0.64 | -1269 | -1259 | 6950 | 7504 | 94.1 | -775 |
Vince Evans | 6739 | 1732 | 3.89 | -0.74 | -1275 | -1232 | -1232 | -1232 | 93.6 | -734 |
Pete Beathard | 5096 | 1585 | 3.22 | -0.84 | -1336 | -1009 | -1009 | -1009 | 94.7 | -564 |
Carson Wentz | 15511 | 2934 | 5.29 | -0.46 | -1344 | -1291 | -1291 | -1291 | 94.2 | -1127 |
Christian Ponder | 5576 | 1278 | 4.36 | -1.06 | -1352 | -1352 | -1352 | -1352 | 87.5 | -1066 |
Eric Hipple | 7329 | 1899 | 3.86 | -0.72 | -1364 | -1364 | -1279 | -1244 | 93.8 | -783 |
Al Dorow | 5235 | 1455 | 3.60 | -0.94 | -1369 | -1369 | -1369 | -1369 | 94.7 | -518 |
Lamar McHan | 5766 | 1697 | 3.40 | -0.82 | -1386 | -1386 | -1386 | -1386 | 95.3 | -527 |
J.P. Losman | 4287 | 1165 | 3.68 | -1.21 | -1404 | -1404 | -1404 | -1404 | 87.7 | -956 |
Geno Smith | 4890 | 1142 | 4.28 | -1.24 | -1420 | -1420 | -1420 | -1420 | 84.2 | -1202 |
Colt McCoy | 5205 | 1222 | 4.26 | -1.17 | -1424 | -1424 | -1424 | -1424 | 86.7 | -1081 |
Joe Kapp | 4086 | 1283 | 3.18 | -1.11 | -1427 | -1353 | 9791 | 16257 | 92.2 | -666 |
Bubby Brister | 11027 | 2662 | 4.14 | -0.54 | -1447 | -1393 | 2401 | 2659 | 94.2 | -1032 |
Brock Osweiler | 6533 | 1411 | 4.63 | -1.03 | -1452 | -1283 | -777 | -777 | 87.0 | -1222 |
Derek Anderson | 8111 | 1858 | 4.37 | -0.79 | -1464 | -1458 | -1458 | -1458 | 92.1 | -974 |
Joe Pisarcik | 2899 | 1075 | 2.70 | -1.36 | -1467 | -1467 | -1467 | -1467 | 88.7 | -812 |
Randy Wright | 4216 | 1259 | 3.35 | -1.17 | -1471 | -1471 | -1471 | -1471 | 88.5 | -968 |
Billy Joe Tolliver | 7628 | 1931 | 3.95 | -0.76 | -1473 | -1473 | -1473 | -1473 | 91.7 | -1063 |
Todd Blackledge | 3283 | 1062 | 3.09 | -1.39 | -1475 | -1349 | -1349 | -1349 | 85.7 | -1014 |
Richard Todd | 14098 | 3657 | 3.86 | -0.41 | -1490 | -1049 | 818 | 1594 | 96.1 | -940 |
Rudy Bukich | 4684 | 1369 | 3.42 | -1.10 | -1511 | -1511 | -1511 | -1511 | 93.9 | -560 |
Marc Wilson | 9601 | 2460 | 3.90 | -0.62 | -1518 | -1423 | -1423 | -1423 | 93.4 | -1077 |
Adrian Burk | 3130 | 1201 | 2.61 | -1.29 | -1551 | -1551 | -1551 | -1551 | 92.9 | -569 |
Dave Wilson | 3747 | 1196 | 3.13 | -1.31 | -1564 | -1406 | -1406 | -1406 | 86.6 | -1069 |
Tim Couch | 7948 | 2004 | 3.97 | -0.78 | -1568 | -1568 | -1568 | -1568 | 91.2 | -1171 |
Rex Grossman | 7901 | 1878 | 4.21 | -0.84 | -1570 | -1408 | 1292 | 1292 | 91.1 | -1113 |
Jim Ninowski | 4074 | 1185 | 3.44 | -1.33 | -1571 | -1452 | -1452 | -1452 | 92.9 | -560 |
Scott Brunner | 3938 | 1251 | 3.15 | -1.26 | -1574 | -1574 | -340 | -255 | 86.7 | -1109 |
Ryan Fitzpatrick | 31226 | 5926 | 5.27 | -0.27 | -1577 | -1577 | -1577 | -1577 | 97.4 | -1018 |
Sam Darnold | 6609 | 1431 | 4.62 | -1.11 | -1590 | -1590 | -1590 | -1590 | 86.6 | -1274 |
Drew Bledsoe | 35806 | 7851 | 4.56 | -0.21 | -1626 | -982 | -982 | -982 | 97.8 | -1158 |
Danny Kanell | 3491 | 1096 | 3.19 | -1.49 | -1633 | -1633 | -312 | -279 | 83.8 | -1185 |
Bobby Douglass | 5317 | 1768 | 3.01 | -0.95 | -1675 | -1675 | -1675 | -1675 | 93.6 | -753 |
Chad Henne | 10619 | 2289 | 4.64 | -0.73 | -1679 | -1641 | -1641 | -1641 | 91.7 | -1260 |
Sam Bradford | 16576 | 3309 | 5.01 | -0.51 | -1695 | -1695 | -1695 | -1695 | 94.3 | -1250 |
Blake Bortles | 16550 | 3219 | 5.14 | -0.53 | -1720 | -1653 | 4926 | 4926 | 93.0 | -1495 |
Bob Avellini | 3492 | 1353 | 2.58 | -1.29 | -1745 | -1604 | -1604 | -1604 | 89.7 | -932 |
Jack Concannon | 4244 | 1418 | 2.99 | -1.25 | -1774 | -1774 | -1774 | -1774 | 91.3 | -826 |
Archie Manning | 16266 | 4422 | 3.68 | -0.44 | -1946 | -1946 | -1946 | -1946 | 98.0 | -583 |
Joe Flacco | 38277 | 7320 | 5.23 | -0.28 | -2015 | -1444 | 61454 | 61454 | 96.7 | -1625 |
Tony Banks | 11313 | 2833 | 3.99 | -0.72 | -2042 | -2023 | -2023 | -2023 | 92.1 | -1501 |
Dennis Shaw | 2735 | 1143 | 2.39 | -1.80 | -2055 | -2055 | -2055 | -2055 | 87.8 | -930 |
Dave Brown | 7416 | 2018 | 3.67 | -1.04 | -2099 | -2067 | -2067 | -2067 | 88.5 | -1549 |
Joey Harrington | 11455 | 2804 | 4.09 | -0.76 | -2125 | -2125 | -2125 | -2125 | 91.8 | -1525 |
Jack Trudeau | 6443 | 1881 | 3.43 | -1.17 | -2196 | -2196 | 761 | 1177 | 87.8 | -1527 |
Kerry Collins | 32671 | 7242 | 4.51 | -0.33 | -2392 | -1963 | 22912 | 23176 | 96.5 | -1695 |
Matt Cassel | 14464 | 3185 | 4.54 | -0.77 | -2452 | -2249 | -2249 | -2249 | 90.9 | -1926 |
King Hill | 2462 | 1000 | 2.46 | -2.48 | -2485 | -2485 | -2485 | -2485 | 86.2 | -919 |
Mike Taliaferro | 2190 | 1077 | 2.03 | -2.40 | -2586 | -2586 | -2586 | -2586 | 83.4 | -1194 |
Mark Sanchez | 12532 | 2830 | 4.43 | -0.94 | -2652 | -2559 | 15875 | 15875 | 89.4 | -2009 |
Kyle Boller | 6221 | 1818 | 3.42 | -1.48 | -2685 | -2685 | -2685 | -2685 | 84.8 | -1840 |
Frank Tripucka | 5350 | 1788 | 2.99 | -1.51 | -2697 | -2697 | -2697 | -2697 | 90.7 | -1114 |
Jon Kitna | 22332 | 5163 | 4.33 | -0.52 | -2704 | -2460 | -2460 | -2460 | 94.2 | -1999 |
Rick Mirer | 8946 | 2484 | 3.60 | -1.10 | -2739 | -2739 | -2739 | -2739 | 87.9 | -2000 |
Randy Johnson | 3870 | 1552 | 2.49 | -1.79 | -2782 | -2782 | -2782 | -2782 | 87.9 | -1250 |
Josh McCown | 13912 | 3151 | 4.42 | -0.91 | -2858 | -2786 | -2786 | -2786 | 89.7 | -2162 |
Zeke Bratkowski | 4960 | 1662 | 2.98 | -1.74 | -2886 | -2864 | -2864 | -2864 | 90.1 | -1096 |
David Carr | 10726 | 2839 | 3.78 | -1.05 | -2977 | -2977 | -2977 | -2977 | 88.4 | -2199 |
Blaine Gabbert | 7050 | 1838 | 3.84 | -1.66 | -3050 | -3050 | -3050 | -3050 | 80.5 | -2390 |
Trent Dilfer | 14834 | 3847 | 3.86 | -0.89 | -3413 | -3285 | -2220 | -2204 | 90.3 | -2499 |
Mike Phipps | 5819 | 2297 | 2.53 | -1.51 | -3469 | -3210 | -3210 | -3210 | 89.0 | -1691 |
Dan Pastorini | 10794 | 3647 | 2.96 | -1.00 | -3638 | -3371 | 9268 | 10132 | 92.5 | -1818 |
I think the rankings have face validity. Certainly, the majority of the majority of the majority of people wouldn’t put Manning on top, but most would have the same names near the top, for the most part.
In the regular season and postseason combined, Tom Brady has had over 1000 more action plays than runner up Drew Brees. While Brees has a slightly higher VAL/P, on average, Brady’s sheer volume of great play puts the Pats legend above the perennial bridesmaid in total career VAL. Manning still remains on top, primarily because of his large lead built in the regular season, as well as the fact that his postseason numbers were better than people may remember.
Even when including the postseason, Dan Marino‘s VAL remains higher than Joe Montana‘s. Sid Luckman also remains higher then Sammy Baugh, though I think most people who watched them play would agree that Slingin’ Sammy was the superior quarterback with the inferior team.
No matter which numbers people use, Ken Anderson tends to find his name among Hall of Famers. I wouldn’t personally put him in the Hall of Fame, because I think few players have had as large a gap between numbers and observed quality of play. However, that the plurality of numbers agree that he is among the very best, it suggests, to me, that it wouldn’t be some big travesty if he made it.
In many ways, Bobby Layne, John Elway, and early Brett Favre are on the other end of the spectrum from Anderson. With the level of talent surrounding them on offense, the numbers drastically undersell their actions on the field of play.
A quick word on Johnny Unitas: the prototype for the modern dropback passer doesn’t quite look on par with his reputation when looking solely at stats. One of the reasons for this is his style of play. Unitas would stand tall in the pocket and deliver deep strikes under pressure. It is well-known nowadays that performance under pressure is high variance, and it is hard to maintain a consistent level of production when constantly pressured. Johnny U was almost always under pressure, sometimes just to show the defense he wasn’t afraid. He walked a tightrope, which resulted in high volatility in his measured performance. Also, it’s pretty clear when watching a football game of recent vintage that many quarterbacks are doing everything they can to maximize their passer rating, even if that doesn’t mean they are actually trying to maximize their chances of winning. Playing to the stats (often incorporated into contract incentives) often distorts a player’s proper risk tolerance. Even though metrics like passer rating correlate to winning in a general sense, putting a dollar amount on them gets us awfully close to a Goodhart type situation. Unitas didn’t play to maximize his rank in any column not labeled “win.” It didn’t always work out, but that was the value system of the era.
Patrick Mahomes leads all players in TAYP+, despite playing in the most pass-happy era in history. He also ranks sixth in VAL/P, with four players above him gaining most of their value in the 1940s, and the fifth player retiring after the 1960 season. The man is a unicorn.
Incorporating leverage into the equation brings us to a ranking that more closely mirrors legacies attached to each quarterback. For instance, Roger Staubach ranks 18th in VAL, while Terry Bradshaw ranks 39th. However, when we account for championship leverage, Bradshaw jumps to seventh, leapfrogging Staubach in 17th. I never felt the two were particularly close in terms of play on the field, but voters for The Athletic‘s NFL 100 countdown recently placed the Dodger at 78 and the Blonde Bomber at 69. Meanwhile, a gold jacket likely awaits Eli Manning, almost solely based on two playoff runs. Postseason performance counts for a great deal.
Including leverage (in a way it is not meant to be used, mind you) produces some wacky results because of how much weight it gives postseason play. Plunkett ranks 12th when sorting by pLev, and I do not know a soul who would ever rank him that high. Similarly, Joe Flacco offsets a career of lackluster regular season performance with stellar postseason play. He ranks 16th, ahead of Staubach, Ben Roethlisberger, and Jim Kelly. It doesn’t get any better when using retro leverage. See if you can spot Tobin Rote. Now look right below him.
To mitigate the effects of incorporating leverage, I figured I’d approach it by still giving a boost for the playoffs, but dampening their severity. Thus, instead of using actual leverage figures as weights (e.g., 204.8 for 2010 vs. 131.4 for 1970), I will use one tenth of the calculated leverage to weigh postseason performance. (so 20.4 and 13.1, instead). I think the results are, in many ways, closer to how the general populous would rank the quarterbacks. Because of that, let’s call it, the GOAT Table.
The GOAT Table
The GOAT Table contains every quarterback with at least 2000 career plays in the regular season and playoffs combined, as well as a retro leverage-adjusted value greater than 1500. We’re trying to look for the great here, not feel bad for Ronnie Cahill. Read the table thus: Tom Brady has had 13704 plays and produced a VAL (from the table above, for comparison’s sake) of 15264. His career VAL when including 10% of championship leverage is 36479, and his VAL when incorporating 10% of retro-adjusted championship leverage is 36484. The table is sorted by the last column, but you can change it, of course.
Player | Ply | VAL | VAL+L | VAL+R |
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Tom Brady | 13704 | 15264 | 36479 | 36484 |
Joe Montana | 7004 | 12270 | 33555 | 35058 |
Peyton Manning | 11213 | 17523 | 27540 | 27546 |
Otto Graham | 3429 | 11171 | 13165 | 20104 |
Sid Luckman | 2060 | 8885 | 10366 | 19812 |
Steve Young | 5822 | 10428 | 19270 | 19734 |
Drew Brees | 12259 | 14822 | 19633 | 19633 |
Dan Marino | 9653 | 12695 | 18022 | 18349 |
Aaron Rodgers | 8557 | 11604 | 17714 | 17714 |
John Elway | 9324 | 5302 | 16710 | 17412 |
Terry Bradshaw | 5184 | 3755 | 13930 | 16746 |
Kurt Warner | 5009 | 5683 | 16005 | 16082 |
Brett Favre | 12175 | 7256 | 15730 | 15913 |
Troy Aikman | 5869 | 3476 | 15107 | 15587 |
Sammy Baugh | 3427 | 8544 | 9446 | 15215 |
Bart Starr | 3875 | 4464 | 8739 | 15015 |
Roger Staubach | 4228 | 7343 | 12361 | 14558 |
Johnny Unitas | 6134 | 8838 | 10745 | 14333 |
Matt Ryan | 8710 | 6115 | 12528 | 12528 |
Norm Van Brocklin | 3104 | 8271 | 9245 | 12441 |
Ken Anderson | 5476 | 8724 | 11720 | 12113 |
Daryle Lamonica | 3188 | 5012 | 9052 | 11904 |
Ben Roethlisberger | 9717 | 6896 | 11807 | 11807 |
Russell Wilson | 6115 | 4672 | 11774 | 11774 |
Fran Tarkenton | 7962 | 10030 | 10843 | 11159 |
Dan Fouts | 6454 | 8093 | 10155 | 10427 |
Philip Rivers | 9426 | 8067 | 10021 | 10021 |
Charlie Conerly | 3211 | 2941 | 4297 | 9638 |
Jim Kelly | 6020 | 3891 | 9258 | 9512 |
Patrick Mahomes | 2287 | 4318 | 9180 | 9180 |
Ken Stabler | 4579 | 2397 | 6258 | 8653 |
Tobin Rote | 3654 | 177 | 1790 | 8281 |
Len Dawson | 4486 | 5883 | 6889 | 7620 |
Jim Plunkett | 4716 | -415 | 6962 | 7571 |
Sonny Jurgensen | 4696 | 7405 | 7518 | 7518 |
Donovan McNabb | 7097 | 3871 | 7016 | 7022 |
Jim McMahon | 3324 | 1886 | 6605 | 6931 |
Doug Williams | 3003 | 1754 | 6235 | 6824 |
Joe Namath | 4108 | 4226 | 5847 | 6785 |
Mark Rypien | 3096 | 2329 | 6154 | 6337 |
Phil Simms | 5806 | 992 | 6008 | 6331 |
Bob Griese | 4261 | 3483 | 5235 | 6255 |
John Hadl | 5323 | 3545 | 4217 | 6089 |
Steve McNair | 5847 | 3254 | 6043 | 6059 |
John Brodie | 5018 | 4805 | 5507 | 5981 |
Tony Romo | 5038 | 5332 | 5852 | 5852 |
Bernie Kosar | 4118 | 2011 | 5398 | 5768 |
Rich Gannon | 5300 | 3052 | 5608 | 5617 |
Colin Kaepernick | 2461 | 752 | 5580 | 5580 |
Y.A. Tittle | 4991 | 4797 | 5463 | 5463 |
Joe Theismann | 4553 | 2836 | 4685 | 5102 |
Jake Delhomme | 3532 | 482 | 4967 | 4967 |
Jeff Garcia | 4570 | 4007 | 4929 | 4929 |
Billy Kilmer | 3638 | 2506 | 3882 | 4715 |
Bobby Layne | 4445 | 2959 | 3640 | 4626 |
Nick Foles | 2492 | -272 | 4576 | 4576 |
Warren Moon | 8286 | 2999 | 4370 | 4444 |
Frank Ryan | 2681 | 1743 | 2575 | 4443 |
Trent Green | 4304 | 3817 | 4363 | 4363 |
Craig Morton | 4673 | 1571 | 3548 | 4278 |
Bert Jones | 3111 | 3935 | 4097 | 4159 |
Joe Flacco | 7320 | -2015 | 4133 | 4133 |
Mark Brunell | 5908 | 2432 | 3978 | 4001 |
Jeff Hostetler | 3007 | 1551 | 3865 | 3992 |
Daunte Culpepper | 4173 | 2095 | 3595 | 3609 |
Eli Manning | 9292 | 545 | 3567 | 3567 |
Jim Hart | 5603 | 3420 | 3455 | 3478 |
Boomer Esiason | 6102 | 2889 | 3382 | 3398 |
Dak Prescott | 2815 | 2473 | 3235 | 3235 |
Earl Morrall | 3217 | 2014 | 2739 | 3150 |
Carson Palmer | 7076 | 2582 | 3135 | 3135 |
Roman Gabriel | 5282 | 3087 | 3133 | 3133 |
Jim Everett | 5632 | 2472 | 3037 | 3062 |
Randall Cunningham | 5985 | 1593 | 3011 | 3050 |
Matt Hasselbeck | 6505 | 1133 | 3008 | 3008 |
Neil O'Donnell | 4005 | 866 | 2853 | 2937 |
Steve Grogan | 4398 | 2325 | 2751 | 2868 |
Brad Johnson | 5098 | 910 | 2802 | 2803 |
Deshaun Watson | 2397 | 2186 | 2686 | 2686 |
Cam Newton | 6048 | 542 | 2665 | 2665 |
Kirk Cousins | 4240 | 2306 | 2611 | 2611 |
Don Meredith | 2859 | 916 | 1850 | 2552 |
Matthew Stafford | 7083 | 2312 | 2549 | 2549 |
Chad Pennington | 3057 | 1582 | 2477 | 2477 |
Danny White | 3750 | 779 | 2198 | 2424 |
Matt Schaub | 3816 | 2324 | 2397 | 2397 |
Andrew Luck | 4165 | 1450 | 2288 | 2288 |
Michael Vick | 4595 | 1190 | 1897 | 1897 |
Billy Wade | 2929 | 1384 | 1553 | 1828 |
Marc Bulger | 3675 | 1203 | 1605 | 1605 |
Greg Landry | 3064 | 1499 | 1569 | 1569 |
Ron Jaworski | 5049 | 440 | 1310 | 1548 |
As you can see, using this method puts Brady and Montana on top, with Manning in distant third. I believe that is how many modern fans view their positions, while older fans want Unitas or Otto Graham in the mix, and fans who love the Eighties want to acknowledge Dan Marino. I’ve already talked about Unitas and why his placement statistically tends to be so far from consensus. Graham’s placement is around where most people have him, though I tend to put him lower based on the incredible confluence of advantages he enjoyed. I do not believe another quarterback ever benefited as much from his surroundings, and maybe only Sid Luckman comes close. That isn’t to say they weren’t both great; they were.
Marino still rates highly here, but his lack of postseason production hurts him. He didn’t get the coaching boost Drew Brees did, and his weapons started off strong but were not great by the back half of his career. Brees also has put up very strong numbers in the postseason. Much of the time, however, he seemed to save his mistakes for the worst moments.
When incorporating a modified version of leverage, Aaron Rodgers and Elway end up side by side, which is fun. They are two of the most naturally gifted players every to grace the position, and they both had periods of statistical doldrums when paired with coaches who were dead set against offensive innovation. They also stand out on highlight reels for what they could do at their best, and many seem to ignore the fact that maybe they weren’t always consistent.
Russell Wilson continues to rise up the ranks, and I think he remains one of the most underappreciated passers in history. Regardless of what they give him to work with on offense, he goes out and makes play after play.
There is something very satisfying about seeing Philip Rivers and Dan Fouts right by each other no matter how you sort the table. There is a cosmic lesson here, I am sure of it.
The thing that stands out to me the most, from these tables, and from the (literally) hundreds of tables from studies I will never publish, is that there is no way to take an honest approach to the numbers and end up with a list that matches your personal, subjective ranking. There are too many factors that we are capable of attempting to account for when we rattle off our top tens, twenties, or, if you are an insane person, thousands.
There is supporting cast, and how much they raise or lower a quarterback. Not to mention how much a quarterback’s own level of play elevates that of his teammates (possibly causing us to knock the QB for having great weapons, when those weapons would have been merely good without him). It isn’t just Rodgers playing behind a superb pass blocking line, or Manning throwing to celebrated receivers. It’s also Montana playing in an innovative offense, Brady playing for a coach who designed the offense around the team’s strengths rather than try to cookie cutter it, or Mahomes pulling the trigger on plays crafted by a man who is consistently on the cutting edge of schematic trends. It’s John Harbaugh calling an aggressive game that gives his offense more shots at success, versus Pete Carroll setting up his team with third and long and praying his quarterback can bail them out, knowing full well that they aren’t going for it on fourth down.
There are opponents to consider. When you play long enough, you probably play a reasonable number of defenses to regress your average toward the mean, but it’s the outliers that make kings or take crowns. Carson Palmer had to play some very good Pittsburgh and Baltimore defenses early on, before moving to Arizona late in life and facing the Seahawks twice a year. John Brodie is probably the poster child for this, with top notch Packers, Lions, Bears, and Rams defenses twice apiece. Opponents matter, although I am not certain of the extent to which they matter. Ideally, I would run an SRS-style analysis on defensive performance against quarterbacks and then use the average of that and league-average as a baseline. [2]Using league average mixed with opponent average would be my simple way of considering the era and the opponents, while keeping in mind my belief that quarterbacks own their own numbers, for the most … Continue reading
We account for performance at home versus away, and to what extent those things matter. Part of that includes weather, which I have never seen well-quantified but still believe must make some sort of difference. When studying weather, we must also account for homefield advantage (or away field disadvantage) and the quality of opposing defense. It does not seem to be a coincidence that a significant portion of the most dominant sustained defenses in history belong to teams that play outside in cold, wet, or windy cities. If we count performance in bad weather without considering the caliber of defense, we may be double counting for or against someone, which seems like a bad thing, right?
There is, of course, what I call highlight reel syndrome, the football fan’s interpretation of the availability heuristic. The amazing plays stick out in our minds, even more so if they occurred in prime time. The incredible plays from Mahomes, Rodgers, and Elway that few could ever come close to making represent a small percentage of their total plays, but they eat a large piece of our mental pie. We don’t talk about Bert Jones making the same types of plays, not necessarily because he wasn’t as talented, but because Jones doesn’t have the same press. Had he played on the Steelers or Raiders, we would never hear the end of how amazing he was and how you “just had to see him play.” Instead, he became the heir to the greatest quarterback in history up to that point and was never able to achieve the same level of success in a more competitive league.
Along with highlight reel syndrome, we internally account for stylistic preference. Some of us prefer the Joe Namath, Norm Van Brocklin types who stand in the pocket and drop bombs over defenses, going on scorched earth campaigns and leaving nothing alive in their wake. Others like the playmakers like Brett Favre and Elway who make uncanny throws from a variety of platforms. Call it arm talent or whatever you want, it results in many fans adoring these heroes of the gridiron. You may, instead, love watching scramblers like Fran Tarkenton and Russell Wilson, running around to make a big play downfield. Or, perhaps, you favor the elite runners like Michael Vick and Lamar Jackson, who embarrass defenders in the open field. I have always had an affinity for the passers who march down the field with surgical precision, like Brady and Manning, exploiting every hole in the zone and every mismatch in man until defenses have emptied their pores trying to keep up with the precision blows. Maybe you have a soft spot for the guys who fight tooth and nail in hopeless situations, pulling victories seemingly out of thin air, like Bobby Layne and Jack Kemp. Whatever your preference, there is a quarterback for you.
There is also institutional racism that has plagued the league like it has plagued the nation. Historically, black quarterbacks were given far fewer opportunities, an embarrassingly short leash in the event they actually got a chance, and heavily coded criticism when they did things their white peers got away with. After Fritz Pollard was effectively blackballed from the league, black passers had a long uphill battle to receive even half the opportunities afforded to their white counterparts. Star tailback Kenny Washington got nary a chance to pass as a pro, and George Taliaferro was used primarily as a runner. Joe Gilliam arguably outplayed the Hall of Fame incumbent ahead of him on the depth chart, and his seven career starts were almost certainly fewer than his talent merited. Doug Williams gave a fledgling Buccaneers a level of success they hadn’t seen before—and wouldn’t see again until Tony Dungy and a handful fistful of legendary defenders turned the tides of the franchise. Despite being the only one to lead the team to any success, he was the 40th highest paid quarterback in a 28-team league. He didn’t hold out and waited until his contract expired to ask for the pay raise he earned and deserved. Tampa brass responded by telling him to hit the road. Williams didn’t underperform and lose his job because of poor play; he simply asked to be paid in a manner concomitant with his production. Despite a stellar collegiate career at Washington, Warren Moon had to spend six years utterly dominating the CFL before the NFL would give him a chance to show his stuff as the field general. He started his career with the Shield at 28, having been robbed of years out of his athletic prime. So when you see his numbers in any of the columns on the tables in this series, remember that racism likely took a half decade of production from those totals. Even now, in the enlightened society we pretend exists, demonstrative behavior that earns white quarterbacks the leadership label often results in black quarterbacks being called selfish or immature. And heaven forbid he enjoy listening to rap music.
Maybe the biggest reason stats don’t align with our subjective rankings is because subjective rankings rely heavily on value beliefs and stats are (and must be) silent on those questions. “Peak vs. Longevity” is not a question that yields to statistical inquiry. Ditto “Clutch vs. Choker” or any number of other values we have that inform the way we interpret both what we see on the field and what we take from the numbers we study. Even our choice of numbers to use speaks to our beliefs. I am using TAY/P, in part, because I created it and I like it, but primarily because of an earnest belief that it is the premier metric for comparing across a timeline this long. I wouldn’t use this as the primus inter pares when comparing quarterbacks of recent vintage, but I would certainly include it in my analysis. [3]As I have stated in previous articles, I like to use the proprietary numbers from Football Outsiders, Pro Football Focus, and ESPN, in addition to publicly available and transparent stats like EPA/P, … Continue reading
That’s all from me. Enjoy.
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↑1 | Because of the way this compares players against average, rather than replacement, I have considered changing the name to DOM, short for dominance. But that feels a little too pro wrestling for my taste. |
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↑2 | Using league average mixed with opponent average would be my simple way of considering the era and the opponents, while keeping in mind my belief that quarterbacks own their own numbers, for the most part. |
↑3 | As I have stated in previous articles, I like to use the proprietary numbers from Football Outsiders, Pro Football Focus, and ESPN, in addition to publicly available and transparent stats like EPA/P, CPOE, and success rate. For most of my life, the schedule has been 16 games. I used to make it my goal to watch a minimum of 80 full games per year, plus highlights, but improvements in technology and resource availability allowed me to increase that number significantly. I can now watch at least five games per year for each team, plus more if I want to study certain players more closely (and I do want to do that). Frankly, it’s hard not to reach burnout, and there are times when the joy of watching football is nowhere to be found. Hell, after the Grand List, the way-too-long Automatic article, and this series, I’m ready to crawl inside my own navel and hibernate. |