In this year’s draft, Tyler Bray is the neophyte, as he’ll be 21 years and 8 months old at the start of the season. He’s just weeks older than Matt Stafford and Josh Freeman were this time four years ago. It also means he’s 10 months younger than Geno Smith, the second youngest of the top prospects. On the other hand, Tyler Wilson will be 24 when the season starters, Landry Jones just turned 24, and Jordan “did you know Aaron is my brother” Rodgers will be 25 on August 30th. Do NFL teams generally ignore age — i.e., fail to measure younger quarterbacks against a lower bar? Or perhaps do they overemphasize age, thinking a young player has such high upside and can be taught anything that they ignore red flags? That’s what this post seeks to answer.
From 1970 to 2008, 587 quarterbacks were selected in the annual NFL draft. Unfortunately, I don’t have data on the age of the 195 players who never made it on to an NFL field. [1]The highest drafted quarterback never to appear in a game since 1970 was Arkansas State’s Gene Bradley, who was selected with the 37th pick by the Bills in 1980. However, I do have the dates of birth for the remaining 392 quarterbacks, which let’s us investigate how NFL teams value age.
First, we need to grade how well the quarterbacks performed. I decided to evaluate players through their first five seasons only, as I think that’s what teams consider when they select a player in the draft. I used a modified version of the formula from my Greatest Quarterback of All-Time Series: for each quarterback, I calculated his Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt average and the league ANY/A for each of his first five seasons. I then gave each passer credit for his ANY/A over replacement level — defined as 75% of league average — and multiplied that differential by his number of pass attempts (including sacks) to create a “value over replacement” statistic.
That’s a fancy way of saying I figured out which quarterback provided the most passing value over replacement in his first five years. Note that I did not include rushing in an attempt to keep it relatively simple. The results aren’t very surprising: Dan Marino has a huge lead on everyone else, with Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan at #2 and #3. Next, I converted the draft values from my Draft Value Chart into expected “adjusted net yardage over replacement” figures for these quarterbacks. After doing that, we can compare how much value above or below expectation each quarterback provided. Here are the results: the final column shows the player’s age on September 1st of the year he was drafted.
Rk | Name | Tm | Year | Pk | Exp Val | Act Val | Diff | Age |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Dan Marino | MIA | 1983 | 27 | 799 | 9091 | 8292 | 21.96 |
2 | Boomer Esiason | CIN | 1984 | 38 | 688 | 5605 | 4918 | 23.38 |
3 | Peyton Manning | IND | 1998 | 1 | 1861 | 6628 | 4766 | 22.44 |
4 | Matt Ryan | ATL | 2008 | 3 | 1507 | 6104 | 4597 | 23.29 |
5 | Ken Anderson | CIN | 1971 | 67 | 505 | 4530 | 4024 | 22.54 |
6 | Joe Montana | SFO | 1979 | 82 | 440 | 4459 | 4019 | 23.22 |
7 | Tom Brady | NWE | 2000 | 199 | 156 | 4129 | 3972 | 23.08 |
8 | Brett Favre | ATL | 1991 | 33 | 733 | 4286 | 3553 | 21.89 |
9 | Jim Everett | HOU | 1986 | 3 | 1507 | 4980 | 3473 | 23.66 |
10 | Joe Flacco | BAL | 2008 | 18 | 930 | 4372 | 3441 | 23.62 |
11 | Aaron Brooks | GNB | 1999 | 131 | 293 | 3433 | 3140 | 23.44 |
12 | Daunte Culpepper | MIN | 1999 | 11 | 1087 | 4194 | 3107 | 22.59 |
13 | Carson Palmer | CIN | 2003 | 1 | 1861 | 4771 | 2909 | 23.68 |
14 | Ben Roethlisberger | PIT | 2004 | 11 | 1087 | 3950 | 2863 | 22.5 |
15 | Marc Bulger | NOR | 2000 | 168 | 212 | 2844 | 2632 | 23.41 |
16 | Jay Cutler | DEN | 2006 | 11 | 1087 | 3715 | 2627 | 23.34 |
17 | Mark Brunell | GNB | 1993 | 118 | 323 | 2891 | 2568 | 22.96 |
18 | Neil Lomax | STL | 1981 | 33 | 733 | 3296 | 2563 | 22.54 |
19 | Brian Griese | DEN | 1998 | 91 | 409 | 2963 | 2554 | 23.46 |
20 | Ken O'Brien | NYJ | 1983 | 24 | 839 | 3371 | 2532 | 22.76 |
21 | Mark Rypien | WAS | 1986 | 146 | 257 | 2767 | 2509 | 23.92 |
22 | Philip Rivers | NYG | 2004 | 4 | 1416 | 3919 | 2502 | 22.73 |
23 | Steve Grogan | NWE | 1975 | 116 | 328 | 2803 | 2475 | 22.11 |
24 | Drew Brees | SDG | 2001 | 32 | 743 | 3171 | 2428 | 22.63 |
25 | Aaron Rodgers | GNB | 2005 | 24 | 839 | 3210 | 2371 | 21.75 |
26 | Doug Williams | TAM | 1978 | 17 | 951 | 3286 | 2336 | 23.06 |
27 | Jeff Blake | NYJ | 1992 | 166 | 212 | 2523 | 2311 | 21.74 |
28 | Gus Frerotte | WAS | 1994 | 197 | 161 | 2278 | 2117 | 23.09 |
29 | Bert Jones | BAL | 1973 | 2 | 1639 | 3559 | 1920 | 21.98 |
30 | Drew Bledsoe | NWE | 1993 | 1 | 1861 | 3781 | 1920 | 21.55 |
31 | Jay Schroeder | WAS | 1984 | 83 | 440 | 2352 | 1912 | 23.18 |
32 | Chad Pennington | NYJ | 2000 | 18 | 930 | 2836 | 1906 | 24.18 |
33 | Pat Haden | RAM | 1975 | 176 | 197 | 2097 | 1901 | 22.6 |
34 | Neil O'Donnell | PIT | 1990 | 70 | 490 | 2345 | 1855 | 24.16 |
35 | Don Majkowski | GNB | 1987 | 255 | 113 | 1789 | 1676 | 23.52 |
36 | John Elway | BAL | 1983 | 1 | 1861 | 3461 | 1599 | 23.18 |
37 | Joe Ferguson | BUF | 1973 | 57 | 561 | 2148 | 1587 | 23.36 |
38 | Jason Campbell | WAS | 2005 | 25 | 824 | 2202 | 1378 | 23.67 |
39 | Matt Schaub | ATL | 2004 | 90 | 409 | 1772 | 1363 | 23.19 |
40 | Troy Aikman | DAL | 1989 | 1 | 1861 | 3185 | 1324 | 22.78 |
41 | Chris Miller | ATL | 1987 | 13 | 1037 | 2347 | 1311 | 22.06 |
42 | Tommy Kramer | MIN | 1977 | 27 | 799 | 2104 | 1305 | 22.49 |
43 | Elvis Grbac | SFO | 1993 | 219 | 126 | 1323 | 1197 | 23.05 |
44 | Tony Eason | NWE | 1983 | 15 | 991 | 2187 | 1196 | 23.9 |
45 | Craig Erickson | TAM | 1992 | 86 | 424 | 1612 | 1187 | 23.29 |
46 | Steve McNair | HOU | 1995 | 3 | 1507 | 2570 | 1063 | 22.54 |
47 | Charlie Batch | DET | 1998 | 60 | 541 | 1602 | 1061 | 23.74 |
48 | Kyle Orton | CHI | 2005 | 106 | 359 | 1412 | 1053 | 22.8 |
49 | Craig Erickson | PHI | 1991 | 131 | 293 | 1338 | 1045 | 22.29 |
50 | Matt Hasselbeck | GNB | 1998 | 187 | 176 | 1203 | 1027 | 22.93 |
51 | Byron Leftwich | JAX | 2003 | 7 | 1234 | 2236 | 1002 | 23.63 |
52 | Dan Fouts | SDG | 1973 | 64 | 521 | 1518 | 997 | 22.23 |
53 | Matt Cassel | NWE | 2005 | 230 | 113 | 1019 | 905 | 23.29 |
54 | Rodney Peete | DET | 1989 | 141 | 268 | 1164 | 897 | 23.46 |
55 | Jim McMahon | CHI | 1982 | 5 | 1340 | 2178 | 838 | 23.03 |
56 | Tony Banks | STL | 1996 | 42 | 657 | 1493 | 836 | 23.41 |
57 | Steve Pelluer | DAL | 1984 | 113 | 338 | 1169 | 831 | 22.09 |
58 | Donovan McNabb | PHI | 1999 | 2 | 1639 | 2416 | 778 | 22.77 |
59 | David Woodley | MIA | 1980 | 214 | 131 | 903 | 772 | 21.85 |
60 | Jim Kelly | BUF | 1983 | 14 | 1011 | 1752 | 741 | 23.55 |
61 | Jake Plummer | ARI | 1997 | 42 | 657 | 1378 | 720 | 22.7 |
62 | Ty Detmer | GNB | 1992 | 230 | 113 | 804 | 691 | 24.84 |
63 | Vince Ferragamo | RAM | 1977 | 91 | 409 | 1099 | 689 | 23.36 |
64 | Derek Anderson | BAL | 2005 | 213 | 136 | 811 | 675 | 22.21 |
65 | Steve DeBerg | DAL | 1977 | 275 | 113 | 777 | 663 | 23.62 |
66 | Steve Beuerlein | RAI | 1987 | 110 | 348 | 1010 | 662 | 22.49 |
67 | Brad Johnson | MIN | 1992 | 227 | 113 | 774 | 661 | 23.97 |
68 | Eli Manning | SDG | 2004 | 1 | 1861 | 2506 | 645 | 23.66 |
69 | Randall Cunningham | PHI | 1985 | 37 | 698 | 1316 | 618 | 22.43 |
70 | Stan Humphries | WAS | 1988 | 159 | 227 | 797 | 570 | 23.38 |
71 | Bill Kenney | MIA | 1978 | 333 | 113 | 631 | 518 | 23.61 |
72 | John Friesz | SDG | 1990 | 138 | 273 | 747 | 474 | 23.29 |
73 | Tim Rattay | SFO | 2000 | 212 | 136 | 602 | 466 | 23.47 |
74 | Chad Henne | MIA | 2008 | 57 | 561 | 941 | 379 | 23.17 |
75 | David Garrard | JAX | 2002 | 108 | 354 | 732 | 378 | 24.54 |
76 | Bubby Brister | PIT | 1986 | 67 | 505 | 877 | 372 | 24.05 |
77 | Brian Sipe | CLE | 1972 | 330 | 113 | 469 | 356 | 23.07 |
78 | Rich Gannon | NWE | 1987 | 98 | 384 | 716 | 332 | 21.7 |
79 | Mike Pagel | BAL | 1982 | 84 | 435 | 742 | 308 | 21.97 |
80 | Scott Mitchell | MIA | 1990 | 93 | 399 | 698 | 299 | 22.66 |
81 | Joe Gilliam | PIT | 1972 | 273 | 113 | 401 | 287 | 21.68 |
82 | Jim Harbaugh | CHI | 1987 | 26 | 814 | 1097 | 283 | 23.69 |
83 | Turk Schonert | CHI | 1980 | 242 | 113 | 377 | 264 | 23.63 |
84 | Troy Smith | BAL | 2007 | 174 | 197 | 436 | 239 | 23.12 |
85 | T.J. Rubley | RAM | 1992 | 228 | 113 | 317 | 204 | 23.76 |
86 | David Whitehurst | GNB | 1977 | 206 | 146 | 333 | 187 | 22.35 |
87 | Quincy Carter | DAL | 2001 | 53 | 581 | 765 | 184 | 23.89 |
88 | Matt Flynn | GNB | 2008 | 209 | 141 | 307 | 166 | 23.2 |
89 | Tyler Thigpen | MIN | 2007 | 217 | 126 | 274 | 148 | 23.38 |
90 | Eric Hipple | DET | 1980 | 85 | 429 | 570 | 140 | 22.96 |
91 | Jim Sorgi | IND | 2004 | 193 | 166 | 298 | 132 | 23.75 |
92 | Rob Johnson | JAX | 1995 | 99 | 379 | 490 | 112 | 22.46 |
93 | Doug Flutie | RAM | 1985 | 285 | 113 | 225 | 112 | 22.86 |
94 | Steve Dils | MIN | 1979 | 97 | 389 | 485 | 96 | 23.73 |
95 | Trent Edwards | BUF | 2007 | 92 | 404 | 492 | 88 | 23.84 |
96 | Paul McDonald | CLE | 1980 | 109 | 348 | 422 | 74 | 22.52 |
97 | Ed Luther | SDG | 1980 | 101 | 374 | 416 | 42 | 23.66 |
98 | Craig Nall | GNB | 2002 | 164 | 217 | 238 | 21 | 23.36 |
99 | Kent Graham | NYG | 1992 | 211 | 136 | 157 | 21 | 23.83 |
100 | Bob Avellini | CHI | 1975 | 135 | 283 | 283 | 0 | 22.01 |
101 | Patrick Ramsey | WAS | 2002 | 32 | 743 | 740 | -3 | 23.55 |
102 | Tarvaris Jackson | MIN | 2006 | 64 | 521 | 512 | -9 | 23.36 |
103 | Bucky Richardson | HOU | 1992 | 220 | 126 | 110 | -16 | 23.56 |
104 | Tom Ramsey | NWE | 1983 | 267 | 113 | 94 | -19 | 22.15 |
105 | Jack Trudeau | IND | 1986 | 47 | 622 | 603 | -19 | 23.98 |
106 | Steve Matthews | KAN | 1994 | 199 | 156 | 128 | -28 | 23.89 |
107 | Eric Zeier | CLE | 1995 | 84 | 435 | 406 | -29 | 22.98 |
108 | Blair Kiel | TAM | 1984 | 281 | 113 | 78 | -35 | 22.76 |
109 | Brooks Bollinger | NYJ | 2003 | 200 | 156 | 107 | -49 | 23.79 |
110 | Gary Hogeboom | DAL | 1980 | 133 | 288 | 234 | -54 | 22.03 |
111 | Shaun King | TAM | 1999 | 50 | 601 | 539 | -63 | 22.26 |
112 | Mike Buck | NOR | 1990 | 156 | 232 | 161 | -71 | 23.36 |
113 | Mike Moroski | ATL | 1979 | 154 | 237 | 161 | -76 | 21.99 |
114 | Tom Owen | SFO | 1974 | 322 | 113 | 29 | -84 | 22 |
115 | Michael Bishop | NWE | 1999 | 227 | 113 | 20 | -93 | 23.3 |
116 | Glenn Foley | NYJ | 1994 | 208 | 141 | 45 | -96 | 23.89 |
117 | Koy Detmer | PHI | 1997 | 207 | 141 | 44 | -97 | 24.16 |
118 | Dan Orlovsky | DET | 2005 | 145 | 257 | 158 | -99 | 22.04 |
119 | Dave Walter | NYG | 1987 | 307 | 113 | 11 | -102 | 22.73 |
120 | Scott Brunner | NYG | 1980 | 145 | 257 | 152 | -106 | 23.44 |
121 | Neal Jeffrey | SDG | 1975 | 423 | 113 | 5 | -108 | 22.11 |
122 | Bob Gagliano | KAN | 1981 | 319 | 113 | 3 | -110 | 22.99 |
123 | Sammy Garza | SEA | 1987 | 216 | 131 | 21 | -110 | 22.14 |
124 | Kent Austin | STL | 1986 | 312 | 113 | 0 | -113 | 23.19 |
125 | Joe Shield | GNB | 1985 | 294 | 113 | 0 | -113 | 23.18 |
126 | Jeff Kelly | SEA | 2002 | 232 | 113 | 0 | -113 | 22.98 |
127 | Rick Trocano | PIT | 1981 | 292 | 113 | 0 | -113 | 22.41 |
128 | Bryan Clark | SFO | 1982 | 251 | 113 | 0 | -113 | 22.1 |
129 | Matt Cavanaugh | NWE | 1978 | 50 | 601 | 484 | -117 | 21.85 |
130 | Joe Hamilton | TAM | 2000 | 234 | 113 | -5 | -118 | 23.47 |
131 | Dennis Sproul | GNB | 1978 | 200 | 156 | 38 | -119 | 22.12 |
132 | Gibran Hamdan | WAS | 2003 | 232 | 113 | -7 | -120 | 22.56 |
133 | Wally Richardson | BAL | 1997 | 234 | 113 | -7 | -120 | 23.55 |
134 | Alex Brink | HOU | 2008 | 223 | 121 | 0 | -121 | 23.25 |
135 | Gifford Nielsen | HOU | 1978 | 73 | 480 | 359 | -121 | 23.85 |
136 | Cliff Stoudt | PIT | 1977 | 121 | 318 | 196 | -122 | 22.43 |
137 | Neil Graff | MIN | 1972 | 414 | 113 | -9 | -122 | 22.64 |
138 | Chris Greisen | ARI | 1999 | 239 | 113 | -9 | -122 | 23.16 |
139 | Scott Campbell | PIT | 1984 | 191 | 171 | 49 | -122 | 22.38 |
140 | Billy Joe Tolliver | SDG | 1989 | 51 | 596 | 474 | -123 | 23.56 |
141 | Rex Grossman | CHI | 2003 | 22 | 865 | 742 | -123 | 23.02 |
142 | Trent Green | SDG | 1993 | 222 | 121 | -4 | -125 | 23.15 |
143 | Kyle Mackey | STL | 1984 | 296 | 113 | -12 | -125 | 22.5 |
144 | Vince Young | TEN | 2006 | 3 | 1507 | 1379 | -128 | 23.29 |
145 | Gary Kubiak | DEN | 1983 | 197 | 161 | 29 | -132 | 22.05 |
146 | Bob Holly | WAS | 1982 | 291 | 113 | -19 | -132 | 22.25 |
147 | Jay Walker | NWE | 1994 | 198 | 156 | 23 | -133 | 22.6 |
148 | Scott Hunter | GNB | 1971 | 140 | 268 | 131 | -137 | 23.81 |
149 | Mike Rae | OAK | 1973 | 205 | 146 | 9 | -137 | 22.1 |
150 | Bradlee Van Pelt | DEN | 2004 | 250 | 113 | -25 | -138 | 24.16 |
151 | Kliff Kingsbury | NWE | 2003 | 201 | 151 | 9 | -142 | 24.06 |
152 | Matt Mauck | DEN | 2004 | 225 | 113 | -29 | -142 | 25.55 |
153 | Pat Ryan | NYJ | 1978 | 281 | 113 | -31 | -144 | 22.96 |
154 | Jim Bob Taylor | BAL | 1983 | 280 | 113 | -32 | -146 | 23.98 |
155 | Scott Covington | CIN | 1999 | 245 | 113 | -34 | -147 | 23.62 |
156 | Larry Cipa | NOR | 1974 | 373 | 113 | -35 | -148 | 22.91 |
157 | Andre Woodson | NYG | 2008 | 198 | 156 | 0 | -156 | 24.35 |
158 | Jeff Rutledge | RAM | 1979 | 246 | 113 | -44 | -157 | 22.61 |
159 | Todd Husak | WAS | 2000 | 202 | 151 | -10 | -161 | 22.16 |
160 | Reggie McNeal | CIN | 2006 | 193 | 166 | 0 | -166 | 22.95 |
161 | Jarious Jackson | DEN | 2000 | 214 | 131 | -36 | -166 | 23.33 |
162 | Chris Chandler | IND | 1988 | 76 | 465 | 296 | -168 | 22.89 |
163 | Chuck Clements | NYJ | 1997 | 191 | 171 | 0 | -171 | 23.92 |
164 | Colt Brennan | WAS | 2008 | 186 | 176 | 0 | -176 | 25.05 |
165 | J.T. O'Sullivan | NOR | 2002 | 186 | 176 | 0 | -176 | 23.02 |
166 | Andy Hall | PHI | 2004 | 185 | 182 | 0 | -182 | 23.76 |
167 | Dean Carlson | KAN | 1972 | 179 | 192 | 8 | -184 | 22.09 |
168 | Randy Wright | GNB | 1984 | 153 | 242 | 56 | -186 | 23.64 |
169 | Kerwin Bell | MIA | 1988 | 180 | 187 | 0 | -187 | 23.21 |
170 | Craig Bradshaw | HOU | 1980 | 182 | 187 | 0 | -187 | 23.05 |
171 | Bruce Mathison | SDG | 1983 | 272 | 113 | -76 | -189 | 24.35 |
172 | Mark Reed | NYG | 1981 | 207 | 141 | -48 | -190 | 22.53 |
173 | Doug Hudson | KAN | 1987 | 186 | 176 | -18 | -194 | 22.97 |
174 | Joe Barnes | CHI | 1974 | 316 | 113 | -81 | -194 | 22.73 |
175 | Sage Rosenfels | WAS | 2001 | 109 | 348 | 153 | -196 | 23.49 |
176 | Mike Norseth | CLE | 1986 | 174 | 197 | 0 | -197 | 22.03 |
177 | Seneca Wallace | SEA | 2003 | 110 | 348 | 148 | -200 | 23.07 |
178 | David Humm | OAK | 1975 | 128 | 298 | 93 | -205 | 23.41 |
179 | Jim Miller | PIT | 1994 | 178 | 192 | -19 | -211 | 23.56 |
180 | Babe Laufenberg | WAS | 1983 | 168 | 212 | 0 | -212 | 23.74 |
181 | Steve Ramsey | NOR | 1970 | 126 | 303 | 91 | -212 | 22.36 |
182 | Shawn Moore | DEN | 1991 | 284 | 113 | -99 | -213 | 23.41 |
183 | Dennis Dixon | PIT | 2008 | 156 | 232 | 17 | -215 | 23.64 |
184 | Moses Moreno | CHI | 1998 | 232 | 113 | -103 | -217 | 22.99 |
185 | Terry Nugent | CLE | 1984 | 158 | 232 | 15 | -217 | 22.74 |
186 | Bobby Scott | NOR | 1971 | 340 | 113 | -105 | -219 | 22.41 |
187 | Tony Adams | SDG | 1973 | 343 | 113 | -107 | -220 | 23.48 |
188 | Erik Ainge | NYJ | 2008 | 162 | 222 | 0 | -222 | 22.22 |
189 | Mike Cherry | NYG | 1997 | 171 | 207 | -17 | -224 | 23.71 |
190 | Drew Henson | HOU | 2003 | 192 | 166 | -57 | -224 | 23.55 |
191 | Brian St. Pierre | PIT | 2003 | 163 | 222 | -4 | -226 | 23.76 |
192 | Steve Joachim | BAL | 1975 | 160 | 227 | 0 | -227 | 23.46 |
193 | Tom Duniven | CIN | 1977 | 160 | 227 | 0 | -227 | 23.29 |
194 | Reggie Collier | DAL | 1983 | 162 | 222 | -7 | -229 | 22.3 |
195 | Paul Justin | CHI | 1991 | 190 | 171 | -58 | -230 | 23.29 |
196 | Steve Bradley | CIN | 1986 | 316 | 113 | -121 | -235 | 23.13 |
197 | Brian McClure | BUF | 1986 | 313 | 113 | -122 | -235 | 22.68 |
198 | Gino Torretta | MIN | 1993 | 192 | 166 | -74 | -241 | 23.06 |
199 | Steve Bono | MIN | 1985 | 142 | 262 | 22 | -241 | 23.31 |
200 | A.J. Feeley | PHI | 2001 | 155 | 237 | -4 | -241 | 24.3 |
201 | Dennis Morrison | SFO | 1973 | 357 | 113 | -128 | -241 | 22.29 |
202 | Frank Reich | BUF | 1985 | 57 | 561 | 316 | -245 | 23.74 |
203 | Erik Wilhelm | CIN | 1989 | 83 | 440 | 193 | -246 | 23.78 |
204 | Joe Reed | SFO | 1971 | 283 | 113 | -134 | -247 | 23.65 |
205 | Stan Gelbaugh | DAL | 1986 | 150 | 247 | 0 | -247 | 23.74 |
206 | Jeff Rowe | CIN | 2007 | 151 | 247 | 0 | -247 | 23.45 |
207 | Mike Kelley | ATL | 1982 | 149 | 247 | 0 | -247 | 22.67 |
208 | Don Strock | MIA | 1973 | 111 | 343 | 95 | -249 | 22.76 |
209 | Jeff Francis | RAI | 1989 | 140 | 268 | 18 | -249 | 23.15 |
210 | Kevin Sweeney | DAL | 1987 | 180 | 187 | -65 | -251 | 23.79 |
211 | Ingle Martin | GNB | 2006 | 148 | 252 | 0 | -252 | 24.05 |
212 | Kordell Stewart | PIT | 1995 | 60 | 541 | 288 | -252 | 22.87 |
213 | Josh McCown | ARI | 2002 | 81 | 445 | 192 | -253 | 23.16 |
214 | Frank Patrick | GNB | 1970 | 251 | 113 | -142 | -255 | 23.48 |
215 | Brent Pease | MIN | 1987 | 295 | 113 | -143 | -257 | 22.9 |
216 | Kerry Collins | CAR | 1995 | 5 | 1340 | 1080 | -260 | 22.67 |
217 | Jeff George | IND | 1990 | 1 | 1861 | 1601 | -260 | 22.73 |
218 | Carlos Brown | GNB | 1975 | 296 | 113 | -148 | -261 | 23.09 |
219 | John Witkowski | DET | 1984 | 160 | 227 | -37 | -264 | 22.21 |
220 | Vince Evans | CHI | 1977 | 140 | 268 | 1 | -267 | 22.22 |
221 | Ken Dorsey | SFO | 2003 | 241 | 113 | -154 | -268 | 22.36 |
222 | Sam Adkins | SEA | 1977 | 254 | 113 | -156 | -269 | 22.28 |
223 | Tee Martin | PIT | 2000 | 163 | 222 | -47 | -269 | 22.11 |
224 | John David Booty | MIN | 2008 | 137 | 278 | 0 | -278 | 23.66 |
225 | Norris Weese | RAM | 1974 | 99 | 379 | 99 | -280 | 23.06 |
226 | Bill Musgrave | DAL | 1991 | 106 | 359 | 78 | -281 | 23.81 |
227 | David Norrie | SEA | 1986 | 291 | 113 | -170 | -283 | 22.75 |
228 | Bruce Gradkowski | TAM | 2006 | 194 | 166 | -117 | -283 | 23.59 |
229 | Jordan Palmer | WAS | 2007 | 205 | 146 | -143 | -289 | 23.26 |
230 | Ben Bennett | ATL | 1984 | 148 | 252 | -43 | -295 | 22.33 |
231 | Rob Hertel | CIN | 1978 | 131 | 293 | -3 | -296 | 23.53 |
232 | Chris Simms | TAM | 2003 | 97 | 389 | 85 | -304 | 23.01 |
233 | Cody Carlson | HOU | 1987 | 64 | 521 | 216 | -304 | 23.82 |
234 | Tony Graziani | ATL | 1997 | 204 | 146 | -158 | -304 | 23.69 |
235 | John Navarre | ARI | 2004 | 202 | 151 | -163 | -315 | 23.98 |
236 | Chuck Fusina | TAM | 1979 | 133 | 288 | -27 | -315 | 22.25 |
237 | Craig Kupp | NYG | 1990 | 135 | 283 | -35 | -318 | 23.38 |
238 | Rohan Davey | NWE | 2002 | 117 | 328 | 10 | -318 | 24.38 |
239 | Dean May | MIA | 1984 | 138 | 273 | -45 | -318 | 22.27 |
240 | Kevin Kolb | PHI | 2007 | 36 | 708 | 386 | -321 | 23.02 |
241 | Alex Van Pelt | PIT | 1993 | 216 | 131 | -192 | -323 | 23.34 |
242 | Dave Barr | PHI | 1995 | 119 | 323 | -3 | -326 | 23.31 |
243 | Brad Smith | NYJ | 2006 | 103 | 369 | 41 | -328 | 22.72 |
244 | Brock Huard | SEA | 1999 | 77 | 460 | 123 | -337 | 23.38 |
245 | Scott Secules | DAL | 1988 | 151 | 247 | -90 | -337 | 23.81 |
246 | Matt Robinson | NYJ | 1977 | 227 | 113 | -224 | -338 | 22.18 |
247 | Luke McCown | CLE | 2004 | 106 | 359 | 15 | -344 | 23.14 |
248 | Cody Pickett | SFO | 2004 | 217 | 126 | -218 | -344 | 24.17 |
249 | Pat Barnes | KAN | 1997 | 110 | 348 | 0 | -348 | 22.52 |
250 | Dan Manucci | BUF | 1979 | 116 | 328 | -24 | -352 | 21.99 |
251 | Anthony Dilweg | GNB | 1989 | 74 | 475 | 116 | -359 | 24.43 |
252 | Mark Manges | RAM | 1978 | 105 | 364 | 0 | -364 | 22.64 |
253 | Cary Conklin | WAS | 1990 | 86 | 424 | 60 | -364 | 22.51 |
254 | Perry Klein | ATL | 1994 | 111 | 343 | -21 | -365 | 23.44 |
255 | Doug Gaynor | CIN | 1986 | 99 | 379 | 10 | -369 | 23.16 |
256 | Isaiah Stanback | DAL | 2007 | 103 | 369 | 0 | -369 | 23.04 |
257 | Jeff Christensen | CIN | 1983 | 137 | 278 | -93 | -371 | 23.65 |
258 | Joe Theismann | MIA | 1971 | 99 | 379 | 6 | -373 | 21.98 |
259 | Billy Joe Hobert | RAI | 1993 | 58 | 551 | 178 | -373 | 22.65 |
260 | Mark Herrmann | DEN | 1981 | 98 | 384 | 11 | -373 | 22.65 |
261 | Hugh Millen | RAM | 1986 | 71 | 490 | 116 | -374 | 22.78 |
262 | Danny Kanell | NYG | 1996 | 130 | 293 | -104 | -397 | 22.78 |
263 | Troy Taylor | NYJ | 1990 | 84 | 435 | 31 | -404 | 22.41 |
264 | Joe Germaine | STL | 1999 | 101 | 374 | -31 | -405 | 24.06 |
265 | Cliff Olander | SDG | 1977 | 128 | 298 | -107 | -405 | 22.3 |
266 | Kevin O'Connell | NWE | 2008 | 94 | 399 | -9 | -408 | 23.27 |
267 | Chris Redman | BAL | 2000 | 75 | 470 | 53 | -417 | 23.15 |
268 | Michael Vick | ATL | 2001 | 1 | 1861 | 1444 | -418 | 21.18 |
269 | Casey Weldon | PHI | 1992 | 102 | 369 | -54 | -422 | 23.58 |
270 | Jesse Freitas | SDG | 1974 | 133 | 288 | -141 | -429 | 22.98 |
271 | Doug Nussmeier | NOR | 1994 | 116 | 328 | -105 | -434 | 23.72 |
272 | Mark Vlasic | SDG | 1987 | 88 | 419 | -15 | -434 | 23.85 |
273 | Steve Stenstrom | KAN | 1995 | 134 | 283 | -157 | -439 | 23.69 |
274 | Jonathan Quinn | JAX | 1998 | 86 | 424 | -16 | -440 | 23.51 |
275 | Trent Dilfer | TAM | 1994 | 6 | 1285 | 840 | -445 | 22.47 |
276 | Mike Wells | MIN | 1973 | 80 | 450 | 0 | -450 | 22.21 |
277 | John Hufnagel | DEN | 1973 | 348 | 113 | -345 | -458 | 21.97 |
278 | Parnell Dickinson | TAM | 1976 | 183 | 182 | -281 | -462 | 23.47 |
279 | Josh Johnson | TAM | 2008 | 160 | 227 | -238 | -465 | 22.3 |
280 | Rick McIvor | STL | 1984 | 80 | 450 | -15 | -465 | 23.93 |
281 | Craig Penrose | DEN | 1976 | 107 | 354 | -134 | -487 | 23.1 |
282 | Glenn Carano | DAL | 1977 | 54 | 576 | 88 | -488 | 21.79 |
283 | Mike Machurek | DET | 1982 | 154 | 237 | -254 | -491 | 22.11 |
284 | Jesse Palmer | NYG | 2001 | 125 | 308 | -184 | -492 | 22.91 |
285 | Charlie Whitehurst | SDG | 2006 | 81 | 445 | -48 | -493 | 24.07 |
286 | Danny White | DAL | 1974 | 53 | 581 | 81 | -500 | 22.56 |
287 | Marc Wilson | OAK | 1980 | 15 | 991 | 484 | -507 | 23.54 |
288 | Mark Malone | PIT | 1980 | 28 | 789 | 275 | -513 | 21.78 |
289 | Donald Hollas | CIN | 1991 | 99 | 379 | -137 | -516 | 23.78 |
290 | Randy Dean | NYG | 1977 | 117 | 328 | -189 | -517 | 22.23 |
291 | Tom Flick | WAS | 1981 | 90 | 409 | -114 | -523 | 23.01 |
292 | J.P. Losman | BUF | 2004 | 22 | 865 | 336 | -529 | 23.47 |
293 | Jeff Hostetler | NYG | 1984 | 59 | 546 | 15 | -531 | 23.36 |
294 | Scott Zolak | NWE | 1991 | 84 | 435 | -97 | -532 | 23.72 |
295 | Wayne Clark | SDG | 1970 | 198 | 156 | -379 | -535 | 23.26 |
296 | Craig Krenzel | CHI | 2004 | 148 | 252 | -284 | -536 | 23.17 |
297 | Randy Fasani | CAR | 2002 | 137 | 278 | -274 | -551 | 23.95 |
298 | Ryan Fitzpatrick | STL | 2005 | 250 | 113 | -442 | -555 | 22.77 |
299 | Dave Ragone | HOU | 2003 | 88 | 419 | -136 | -556 | 23.91 |
300 | Tom Tupa | PHO | 1988 | 68 | 500 | -57 | -557 | 22.57 |
301 | Todd Collins | BUF | 1995 | 45 | 637 | 78 | -559 | 23.82 |
302 | David Jaynes | KAN | 1974 | 66 | 510 | -51 | -561 | 21.72 |
303 | Kurt Kittner | ATL | 2002 | 158 | 232 | -333 | -565 | 22.61 |
304 | Jeff Lewis | DEN | 1996 | 100 | 379 | -200 | -579 | 23.38 |
305 | Chris Weinke | CAR | 2001 | 106 | 359 | -220 | -579 | 29.09 |
306 | Mike Kruczek | PIT | 1976 | 47 | 622 | 35 | -586 | 23.47 |
307 | Kyle Boller | BAL | 2003 | 19 | 910 | 320 | -590 | 22.21 |
308 | Steve Myer | SEA | 1976 | 93 | 399 | -203 | -602 | 22.13 |
309 | Mike Boryla | CIN | 1974 | 87 | 424 | -183 | -607 | 23.49 |
310 | Matt Leinart | ARI | 2006 | 10 | 1118 | 508 | -609 | 23.31 |
311 | Brodie Croyle | KAN | 2006 | 85 | 429 | -183 | -612 | 23.57 |
312 | Bill Cappleman | MIN | 1970 | 51 | 596 | -17 | -613 | 23.47 |
313 | Wade Wilson | MIN | 1981 | 210 | 141 | -476 | -617 | 22.58 |
314 | Guy Benjamin | MIA | 1978 | 51 | 596 | -23 | -619 | 23.18 |
315 | Rusty Hilger | RAI | 1985 | 143 | 262 | -362 | -624 | 23.32 |
316 | Jerry Golsteyn | NYG | 1976 | 333 | 113 | -512 | -626 | 22.07 |
317 | Mike Kirkland | BAL | 1976 | 143 | 262 | -364 | -627 | 22.18 |
318 | Mike McMahon | DET | 2001 | 149 | 247 | -386 | -633 | 22.56 |
319 | Craig Whelihan | SDG | 1995 | 197 | 161 | -477 | -638 | 24.38 |
320 | Carl Summerell | NYG | 1974 | 80 | 450 | -194 | -643 | 22.74 |
321 | Marques Tuiasosopo | OAK | 2001 | 59 | 546 | -104 | -650 | 22.45 |
322 | Jeff Komlo | DET | 1979 | 231 | 113 | -547 | -660 | 23.09 |
323 | Peter Tom Willis | CHI | 1990 | 63 | 526 | -144 | -670 | 23.66 |
324 | Mark Miller | CLE | 1978 | 68 | 500 | -170 | -670 | 22.05 |
325 | Jeff Carlson | RAM | 1989 | 102 | 369 | -309 | -678 | 23.28 |
326 | Ron Jaworski | RAM | 1973 | 37 | 698 | 14 | -684 | 22.44 |
327 | Oliver Luck | HOU | 1982 | 44 | 642 | -61 | -703 | 22.41 |
328 | Richard Todd | NYJ | 1976 | 6 | 1285 | 568 | -716 | 22.78 |
329 | Leo Hart | ATL | 1971 | 59 | 546 | -178 | -724 | 22.5 |
330 | Todd Marinovich | RAI | 1991 | 24 | 839 | 113 | -726 | 22.16 |
331 | Spergon Wynn | CLE | 2000 | 183 | 182 | -546 | -728 | 22.06 |
332 | Tony Sacca | PHO | 1992 | 46 | 627 | -101 | -728 | 22.38 |
333 | Matt Blundin | KAN | 1992 | 40 | 672 | -62 | -734 | 23.49 |
334 | Steve Fuller | KAN | 1979 | 23 | 849 | 115 | -735 | 22.65 |
335 | Gary Keithley | STL | 1973 | 45 | 637 | -104 | -741 | 22.64 |
336 | Stoney Case | ARI | 1995 | 80 | 450 | -303 | -753 | 23.15 |
337 | Bobby Hoying | PHI | 1996 | 85 | 429 | -331 | -760 | 23.95 |
338 | Tom Hodson | NWE | 1990 | 59 | 546 | -221 | -767 | 23.59 |
339 | Drew Stanton | DET | 2007 | 43 | 647 | -124 | -771 | 23.32 |
340 | Randy Hedberg | TAM | 1977 | 196 | 161 | -616 | -778 | 22.68 |
341 | Mike Elkins | KAN | 1989 | 32 | 743 | -48 | -791 | 23.12 |
342 | Will Furrer | CHI | 1992 | 107 | 354 | -440 | -794 | 24.57 |
343 | Brian Brohm | GNB | 2008 | 56 | 566 | -229 | -795 | 22.94 |
344 | John Beck | MIA | 2007 | 40 | 672 | -130 | -802 | 26.03 |
345 | Kellen Clemens | NYJ | 2006 | 49 | 607 | -218 | -825 | 23.24 |
346 | Scott Bull | SFO | 1976 | 177 | 192 | -637 | -829 | 23.23 |
347 | Jeb Blount | OAK | 1976 | 50 | 601 | -242 | -843 | 22.14 |
348 | Joey Harrington | DET | 2002 | 3 | 1507 | 662 | -845 | 23.86 |
349 | Brady Quinn | CLE | 2007 | 22 | 865 | 1 | -864 | 22.84 |
350 | Charlie Frye | CLE | 2005 | 67 | 505 | -365 | -871 | 24.01 |
351 | Jim Plunkett | NWE | 1971 | 1 | 1861 | 987 | -875 | 23.74 |
352 | Browning Nagle | NYJ | 1991 | 34 | 723 | -176 | -899 | 23.34 |
353 | Lynn Dickey | HOU | 1971 | 56 | 566 | -345 | -912 | 21.87 |
354 | Cade McNown | CHI | 1999 | 12 | 1062 | 131 | -931 | 22.63 |
355 | Gary Marangi | BUF | 1974 | 70 | 490 | -450 | -940 | 22.09 |
356 | Matt Kofler | BUF | 1982 | 48 | 612 | -329 | -940 | 23.01 |
357 | Tim Couch | CLE | 1999 | 1 | 1861 | 899 | -962 | 22.09 |
358 | Chuck Long | DET | 1986 | 12 | 1062 | 84 | -978 | 23.53 |
359 | Jim Druckenmiller | SFO | 1997 | 26 | 814 | -170 | -984 | 24.95 |
360 | Danny Wuerffel | NOR | 1997 | 99 | 379 | -608 | -987 | 23.27 |
361 | Rusty Lisch | STL | 1980 | 89 | 414 | -583 | -997 | 23.7 |
362 | Steve Pisarkiewicz | STL | 1977 | 19 | 910 | -104 | -1014 | 23.81 |
363 | Dennis Shaw | BUF | 1970 | 30 | 763 | -286 | -1050 | 23.5 |
364 | Pat Sullivan | ATL | 1972 | 40 | 672 | -379 | -1051 | 22.62 |
365 | David Carr | HOU | 2002 | 1 | 1861 | 792 | -1069 | 23.12 |
366 | Phil Simms | NYG | 1979 | 7 | 1234 | 146 | -1088 | 24.83 |
367 | Andrew Walter | OAK | 2005 | 69 | 495 | -599 | -1094 | 23.31 |
368 | Tommy Maddox | DEN | 1992 | 25 | 824 | -291 | -1115 | 21 |
369 | Todd Blackledge | KAN | 1983 | 7 | 1234 | 56 | -1178 | 22.51 |
370 | Jerry Tagge | GNB | 1972 | 11 | 1087 | -119 | -1206 | 22.39 |
371 | Andre Ware | DET | 1990 | 7 | 1234 | -2 | -1236 | 22.09 |
372 | John Reaves | PHI | 1972 | 14 | 1011 | -251 | -1262 | 22.5 |
373 | Dan McGwire | SEA | 1991 | 16 | 966 | -312 | -1278 | 23.7 |
374 | Kelly Stouffer | STL | 1987 | 6 | 1285 | -180 | -1464 | 23.15 |
375 | Dan Pastorini | HOU | 1971 | 3 | 1507 | -17 | -1524 | 22.27 |
376 | Jack Thompson | CIN | 1979 | 3 | 1507 | -42 | -1549 | 23.29 |
377 | Gary Huff | CHI | 1973 | 33 | 733 | -821 | -1554 | 22.35 |
378 | Vinny Testaverde | TAM | 1987 | 1 | 1861 | 306 | -1555 | 23.8 |
379 | David Klingler | CIN | 1992 | 6 | 1285 | -292 | -1577 | 23.54 |
380 | Rich Campbell | GNB | 1981 | 6 | 1285 | -297 | -1582 | 22.69 |
381 | Kim McQuilken | ATL | 1974 | 69 | 495 | -1276 | -1772 | 23.51 |
382 | Steve Bartkowski | ATL | 1975 | 1 | 1861 | 45 | -1816 | 22.8 |
383 | Heath Shuler | WAS | 1994 | 3 | 1507 | -330 | -1837 | 22.67 |
384 | Alex Smith | SFO | 2005 | 1 | 1861 | -48 | -1909 | 21.32 |
385 | Art Schlichter | BAL | 1982 | 4 | 1416 | -493 | -1909 | 22.35 |
386 | Rick Mirer | SEA | 1993 | 2 | 1639 | -278 | -1917 | 23.46 |
387 | Mike Phipps | CLE | 1970 | 3 | 1507 | -484 | -1991 | 22.78 |
388 | Archie Manning | NOR | 1971 | 2 | 1639 | -379 | -2017 | 22.29 |
389 | JaMarcus Russell | OAK | 2007 | 1 | 1861 | -236 | -2097 | 22.06 |
390 | Akili Smith | CIN | 1999 | 3 | 1507 | -631 | -2138 | 24.03 |
391 | Terry Bradshaw | PIT | 1970 | 1 | 1861 | -311 | -2172 | 22 |
392 | Ryan Leaf | SDG | 1998 | 2 | 1639 | -882 | -2521 | 22.3 |
Next, I plotted each quarterback on a graph, with age on the X-axis and the Differential column (value over replacement over expectation) on the Y-axis. Note that Dan Marino’s data point is off the chart, but he was included in the underlying file.
It’s pretty easy to see that there’s no relationship between age and draft selection. If teams undervalued age, then more of the dots would be up and to the left; if teams overvalued age, then there would be a disproportionate number of dots down and to the right. I’ve included a best-fit trendline in a thick black line, and as you can see, it essentially rides along the expectation line, confirming that NFL teams have not been under- or over-valuing age.
This doesn’t mean that age is irrelevant, but rather that NFL teams are properly balancing age with every other variable. If you believe the draft is an efficient market, this would reinforce that belief. Players like Michael Vick, Alex Smith, and Drew Bledsoe were first overall picks in part because of their age. So if Tyler Bray gets drafted earlier than you might expect, that’s a sign that an NFL team considers his track record in connection with his youth. On the other hand, if he falls in the draft, it’s unlikely that it’s because NFL teams ignore his age: it just means that his youth can’t compensate for his other issues. Mock drafters and draftniks may undervalue age (at least, in my opinion) but it doesn’t appear that NFL teams are guilty of the same mistake.
References
↑1 | The highest drafted quarterback never to appear in a game since 1970 was Arkansas State’s Gene Bradley, who was selected with the 37th pick by the Bills in 1980. |
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